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Subject: [Leica] Noctilux notes/question about Leica Cassettes
From: "Gary and Dawn Klein" <gdklein@bytehead.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 23:16:27 -0600

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While I have never owned a 50mm f1 (would really like one however), I have
had experience with really fast lenses and have used them in a professional
capacity.  At one time I owned a Nikon 200mm f2 lens.  I used it exclusively
for night time football in the pre TmaxP3200 days when all I had available
was tri x.  I would process  the tri x in Acufine at the following times and
indexes:

- -3200

70deg F
dilution 1 to 1
21 minutes

- -1600

70deg F
dilution 1 to 1
14 minutes

- -1000
70deg F
dilution 1 to 1
10 minutes

I found that by diluting the Acufine, the highlights wouldn't blow out.
Shadow detail was slightly better.  If you ever try the 3200 times with this
combo, keep your fix and wash times to an absolute minimum as the emulsion
gets mighty soft with that much wet time.  The 1000 combo gives a beautiful
grain look to the images.  The sharpness is good.  Of course this is a  use
the developer  once and toss.

With the fast 200mm lens wide open, depth of field amounted to zip.  Either
you were in focus or you weren't.  Burned a ton of film using that lens.  It
was an extraordinary sharp lens, which I sold to help my down payment on my
house.  However, as you may have noticed, I didn't sell my Leica stuff.  My
wife forbids that!!  She knows that I want to aquire more stuff down the
road.....and I will now that my company supplies us with Canon stuff.
(20~35, 70~210, A2e and Eos1n).  The Leica I use for my personal
photography.  I love making decisions about every aspect instead of the auto
hyper Canons.

Also, have any of you used the Leica Reloadable metal cassettes that you use
with bulk film loaders?  The Leica version of the Nikon AM-1?  I really
liked those for my F2 as I shoot a lot of bulk black and white film via bulk
loading.  Thanks

Thanks for your input on lenses.  I am leaning towards the 35mm f2 asph as I
really do like compact lenses.

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/2145

Gary Klein

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size=3D2>While=20
I have never owned a 50mm f1 (would really like one however), I have had =

experience with really fast lenses and have used them in a professional=20
capacity.&nbsp; At one time I owned a Nikon 200mm f2 lens.&nbsp; I used =
it=20
exclusively for night time football in the pre TmaxP3200 days when all I =
had=20
available was tri x.&nbsp; I would process&nbsp; the tri x in Acufine at =
the=20
following times and indexes:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2>-3200</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>70deg=20
F</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2>dilution 1 to 1</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>21=20
minutes</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2>-1600</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>70deg=20
F</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2>dilution 1 to 1</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>14=20
minutes</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2>-1000</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>70deg=20
F</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2>dilution 1 to 1</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>10=20
minutes</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>I=20
found that by diluting the Acufine, the highlights wouldn't blow =
out.&nbsp;=20
Shadow detail was slightly better.&nbsp; If you ever try the 3200 times =
with=20
this combo, keep your fix and wash times to an absolute minimum as the=20
emulsion&nbsp; gets mighty soft with that much wet time.&nbsp; The 1000 =
combo=20
gives a beautiful grain look to the images.&nbsp; The sharpness is =
good.&nbsp;=20
Of course this is a&nbsp; use the developer&nbsp; once and toss.&nbsp;=20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>With=20
the fast 200mm lens wide open, depth of field amounted to zip.&nbsp; =
Either you=20
were in focus or you weren't.&nbsp; Burned a ton of film using that =
lens.&nbsp;=20
It was an extraordinary sharp lens, which I sold to help my down payment =
on my=20
house.&nbsp; However, as you may have noticed, I didn't sell my Leica=20
stuff.&nbsp; My wife forbids that!!&nbsp; She knows that I want to =
aquire more=20
stuff down the road.....and I will now that my company supplies us with =
Canon=20
stuff.&nbsp; (20~35, 70~210, A2e and Eos1n).&nbsp; The Leica I use for =
my=20
personal photography.&nbsp; I love making decisions about every aspect =
instead=20
of the auto hyper Canons.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Also,=20
have any of you used the Leica Reloadable metal cassettes that you use =
with bulk=20
film loaders?&nbsp; The Leica version of the Nikon AM-1?&nbsp; I really =
liked=20
those for my F2 as I shoot a lot of bulk black and white film via bulk=20
loading.&nbsp; Thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Thanks=20
for your input on lenses.&nbsp; I am leaning towards the 35mm f2 asph as =
I=20
really do like compact lenses.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/2145">http://www.geocities.c=
om/SoHo/Museum/2145</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D350330005-08011999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Gary=20
Klein</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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