Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/02/11

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Subject: Re: [Leica] IIIf question
From: Peter Goldberg <peterg@martinhamblin.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:58:35 -0500

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Mark Hammons wrote:

>
>
>      The issue re the light weight shutter I have often puzzled
>      over; the only reference I ever came across was the bald
>      notation on pg 135 of the Pocket Book.  Nothing seen
>      elsewhere to amplify - offers please.
>
>      ------------------------------------
>
>      Van Hasbroeck's book mentions that the IIIF red dial had a
>      "completely new redesigned shutter (lighter and with less
>
>      bounce).   Also says that the new shutter speeds for the
>      IIIF RD were the THEN INTERNATIONAL ones.
>
>      Comparison of IIIF BD (black dial) and IIIF RD (red dial)
>      shutter speeds are given below:
>
>      BD:  T, 1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/10, 1/15, 1/20, 1/30, 1/40, 1/60,
>      1/100, 1/200, 1/500, 1/1000, B
>
>      RD:  T, 1, 1/2, 1/5, 1/10, 1/15,      1/25,    1/50, 1/75,
>      1/100, 1/200, 1/500, 1/1000, B
>
>
>
>
>
>      Notice how there is one less slow shutter speed on the Red
>      Dial with the 1/25th
>
>      second speed fitting between the 1/20th and 1/30th speed of
>      the Black Dial.
>
>
>
>      Mark Hammons
>
Well, that should make the BD's sell at a premium now.

BTW, Mr.Laney's book notes that the lightweight shutter spec. came into
effect from '52; no mention of limited run etc, rather it then became
the standard.

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<p>Mark Hammons wrote:
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style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The
issue re the light weight shutter I have often puzzled over; the only reference
I ever came across was the bald notation on pg 135 of the Pocket Book.&nbsp;
Nothing seen elsewhere to amplify - offers please.
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>------------------------------------</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Van Hasbroeck's
book mentions that the IIIF red dial had a "completely new redesigned shutter
(lighter and with less</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>bounce).&nbsp;&nbsp; Also says that
the new shutter speeds for the IIIF RD were the THEN INTERNATIONAL ones.</font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Comparison of IIIF BD (black dial)
and IIIF RD (red dial) shutter speeds are given below:</font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>BD:&nbsp; T, 1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/10, 1/15,
1/20, 1/30, 1/40, 1/60, 1/100, 1/200, 1/500, 1/1000, B</font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>RD:&nbsp; T, 1, 1/2, 1/5, 1/10, 1/15,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
1/25,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1/50, 1/75, 1/100, 1/200, 1/500, 1/1000, B</font></font>
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<br>&nbsp;
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<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Notice how there
is one less slow shutter speed on the Red Dial with the 1/25th</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>second speed
fitting between the 1/20th and 1/30th speed of the Black Dial.</font></font></font>
<br>&nbsp;
<br>&nbsp;
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Mark Hammons</font></font></font></blockquote>
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Well, that should make the BD's sell at a premium now.
<p>BTW, Mr.Laney's book notes that the lightweight shutter spec. came into
effect from '52; no mention of limited run etc, rather it then became the
standard.
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