Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/04/07

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Subject: [Leica] RE: Re: Re: metering middle grey
From: Jim Brick <jimbrick@photoaccess.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:26:01 -0700

Fair enough. I guess the truth emerges. Mark Rabiner's original LUG post
interpreted Bob's Rollei list post differently. Thanks for the correction.

Fortunately all of my grey cards are old.

Jim


At 04:11 PM 4/7/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Jim,
>
>Its not Bob, it is what Kodak is stating about the new gray cards.  They are
>indicating it requires a 1/2 stop correction.  He is trying to find out if
>it has to do with the material of manufacture and has posed the
>question/comment to the Rollei Users Group.
>
>Peter K
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Brick [mailto:jimbrick@photoaccess.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 3:36 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: [Leica] Re: Re: metering middle grey
>
>
>So Bob Shell is saying that "all" incident meters are wrong... Mine sure as
>hell isn't and it agrees perfectly with a reflected reading of all of my
>18% grey cards.
>
>There would sure be a hellova lot of industrial/commercial/fashion/fine art
>photographers that have been using their incident meter for decades,
>without knowing that their meter is/was wrong. It's amazing that they take
>such great photographs.
>
>And the schools don't even know this. WOW!!!
>
>Maybe Bob got a bad batch of grey m..... cards.
>
>Jim
>
>
>At 02:05 PM 4/7/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>>From the Rollei List Bob Shell has authoritatively and convincingly
>>turned my head around.
>>He says middle grey is 13% and the middle grey card is 18% so you have
>>to open a half stop when you use it.
>>I quote myself:
>>I find it quite humorous to find out this late in my photographic life
>>that the middle grey card is not middle grey.
>>"It's like finding out that middle grey isn't middle grey!"
>>What next? Is nothing sacred?
>>Did everybody know but me?
>>I you walked up to me in a bar and wanted to bet me whether the middle
>>grey card was really middle grey what would I have done?
>>I going to go bury my head in the sand!
>>Anything else you guys/gals want to tell me before my hair falls out. I
>>know about Santa.
>>Mark :-) Rabiner