Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/05/11

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Erwin Qualifications
From: "Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter)" <peterk@lucent.com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:25:53 -0700

No Lucian I do not.  But at one point I would expect an answer once we get
past all the LUG bodyguards.

Peter K

> ----------
> From: 	Lucian Chis[SMTP:chis@ece.orst.edu]
> Reply To: 	leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Sent: 	Monday, May 10, 1999 10:02 PM
> To: 	'leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us'
> Subject: 	RE: [Leica] Erwin Qualifications
> 
> 
> Well, Peter et al,
>  
> I tell you, one of the reasons I am on this list is Erwin's contribution
> to it. 
> Anyway, since you asked the question, I may refer you to the
> fact that Western Europe is just waking up, so he can't quench your
> thirst for knowledge and reassure you that he never threatened to live LUG
> in the childish manner you portray him to have done.
> You don't expect him to keep a night vigil for LUG ironic remarks, do you?
> 
> Lucian 
> 
> On Mon, 10 May 1999, Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter) wrote:
> 
> > Why doesn't Erwin speak for himself regarding his credentials?  
> > Or is he going to threaten to quit the LUG (again) so everyone has to
> kiss
> > up to him and get him not to?
> > 
> > Peter K
> > 
> > > ----------
> > > From: 	Ted Grant[SMTP:tedgrant@islandnet.com]
> > > Reply To: 	leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > Sent: 	Monday, May 10, 1999 6:04 PM
> > > To: 	leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > Subject: 	Re: [Leica] Erwin Qualifications
> > > 
> > > Tom Shea wrote:
> > > 
> > > <<<<<I would also note that even should he choose to not respond
> (which is
> > > absolutely his right), I will continue to enjoy and marvel at his
> > > wonderful
> > > and excellent tests and comparisons>>>>>>
> > > 
> > > Hi Tom,
> > > 
> > > Given that we who have known him over the years have learned so much
> about
> > > Leica glass from Erwin, it's always unfortunate that some character,
> not
> > > you Tom, an  earlier poster, has to come along and yap for his
> credentials
> > > instead of going back into the archives and reading his excellent lens
> > > information reports.
> > > 
> > > What he does, isn't using a lens, making a few happy snaps and
> comparing
> > > with a few happy snaps from another manufacturer, it's all done very
> > > meticulously and with the right measuring equipment and experience to
> make
> > > it as accurate as possible.
> > > 
> > > I don't have a problem with anyone asking for "credentials." What I do
> > > have
> > > a problem with "is the way they ask!"
> > > 
> > > Some lug members know how in a polite and courteous manner, others
> sound
> > > like they just haven't got the manners of a noodnik!  No, no, please
> don't
> > > ask what a noodnik is,:) because I will be terribly impolite trying to
> > > explain your complete stupidity for asking the question. Be kind now
> I'm
> > > getting really old!:)
> > > 
> > > Back to the topic at hand... For those who wish to know what Erwin is
> all
> > > about please go into the archives before you get back on line and read
> his
> > > excellent reports first. Then you may find this man really knows what
> he
> > > is
> > > talking about.
> > > 
> > > These are not the reports of someone who is fudging numbers, facts and
> > > results! These are the results of extensive and exhausting testing by
> > > someone who knows what the hell they are talking about and doing.
> > > 
> > > Quite frankly if I were Erwin, I'd tell the original poster to go
> screw
> > > himself very politely!
> > > 
> > > ted
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
>