Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/07/13

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Users digest V10 #17
From: "Dan Post" <dwpost@email.msn.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:12:37 -0400

Wilber,
After my rambling- I read your post, and SHOOT! You said it all!
I think that many 'important' folks are important only because of the
interest of the public at large. In most cases, you don't play to the public
in one fashion or another, you get forgotten REALLY QUICKLY!
Dan, Nobody in particular....
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffcoat Photography <jeffcoatphoto@sumter.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Users digest V10 #17


> Hello! I spent 2 yrs working for a small town daily and did a few
important? folks-
> Nixon and Billy Graham, Bust Crab, and Martin Luther King's Widow (the ?
mark is for
> Nixon only), but mostly everyday people who had their moment of glory.
Most of the
> time (99.99%) they were all very willing and very very happy for the
attention.
> Every once in awhile we had some breaking story that you covered and you
didn't ask,
> may I, but I always found that if you remember the golden rule ( this
applies to the
> subject as well as your fellow Fotog's) you got a lot more cooperation
than if you
> acted like a lot of the Arsh's I see in the news today. So for the past 30
yr. I've
> always tried very hard to respect others space and tried to get the images
that I
> was hired to shoot. Most of the time I find this gentle approach works
very very
> very very well. Never have liked being in a crowd of pushy jerks who think
hey have
> some God given right (because of the right to free speech) to treat others
the way
> they like all in the name of the all mighty BUCK! That's really what it
boils down
> to. Look at the wonderful and full of life candid work HCB and others of
his time. I
> really don't think he grabbed people by the arm holding on while he sent
his motor
> drive in to over drive (don't think he used one anyway). So this is just a
off the
> cuff comment to this posting from an old press dog who's been there and
done that.
> Thanks for your comments DY.
> Cheers Wilber
>
> Dave Yoder wrote:
>
> > So many tough-guys on this LUG! The verbs you employ suggest to me
> > you've never seen a good photojournalist at work, but that you judge
> > everyone by what you've seen in the media (lewinsky-gate, OJ, "blow-up,"
> > whatever). There are right ways to do it that don't leave the subject
> > feeling used or intruded upon, and there are of course many wrong ways
> > (in my opinion, standing further back with a long lens is just as bad or
worse).
> >
> > Relax. Just about everyone else does.
> >
> > Yoder
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:32:51 -0700
> > > From: "793582" <793582@idmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] David Turnley pt 2
> > >
> > (snip)
> > > How many people would react kindly to having a complete stranger come
up
> > > close into one's personal space, touch you on the arm or shoulder, and
then
> > > push a camera into one's face? Do it to me, and the young puppy would
find
> > > his camera pushed into his face or tossed onto the ground.
> > >
>