Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/07/20

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Subject: Re: [Leica] M4P Chrome versions
From: "thibault.collin@sc.u-picardie.fr" <thibault.collin@u-picardie.fr>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:35:50 +0200

There's one chrome M4-P for sale in Paris these days. At "Cirque Photo
Video" for 
6600 frs which roughly corresponds to 1000 bucks.
It is not mint but its looks OK.
Thib.
 


At 16:05 20/07/99 +0200, vous avez écrit:
>
>
>Peter Kristoffersen wrote:
> 
>> Does anybody of you know anything about M4P Chrome versions? How many was
>> produced in comparison with the black versions? How much more is these
>> cameras worth, and are they considered "users" or "collectibles"?
>
>Peter,
>
>M4-P Chrome (plain) are collectibles.
>
>1546351-1545300 M4-P            80-81
>1546351-1552350 M4-P            81
>1552351-1552884 M4-P            81
>1562351-1564350 M4-P            82
>1586351-1590350 M4-P            82
>1604551-1606550 M4-P            82-83
>1618551-1620550 M4-P Chrome     83        = 2000 Ex.
>1620551-1622550 M4-P            83-84
>1636551-1637550 M4-P Chrome     83        = 1000 Ex.
>1642551-1643750 M4-P            84   **
>1649251-1651250 M4-P            84-85
>1691951-1692950 M4-P            86
>
>Total Chrome = 3000 - 2500 engraved'1913-1983' = 500* plain chrome.
>*Of which, I guess a few are with the M6 (flush) windows.
>Thats how Ghester Sartorius find that number in his 
>"Identifying Leica Cameras" ISBN 0-8174-4026-7 .
>Obviously this is not correct because whe know at least 5
>chrome M4-P outside of the two chrome batch. But anyway,
>it's a rare camera.
>
>In the Leica International Price Guide (7th edition)
>
>M4-P Black              = 1000 $  R3    +/-  22 000 Ex.
>M4-P Chrome             = 3000 $  R6    500 Ex.
>M4-P Chrome 70th Anniv. = 2500 $  R6    2500 Ex.
>
>R3 = Unusual Possible availability   =   3-6 month
>R6 = Very rare availability          =   once in 2 years
>
>In Belgium a M4-P Black is more R2 (slightly unusual 14 days)
>and a M4-P Chrome (plain) is more R8 (I have seen two in 13 years)
>
>
>
>Lucien
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>