Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/07/30

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Lens Designs and history
From: "Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter)" <peterk@lucent.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:57:35 -0700

Marc,

I won't argue the patent issue.  Yes the Japanese did copy.  Yes, the Tessar
was an original design based on previous lens designs and new research.  It
is perhaps the most famous lens design ever and the first lens the Japanese
tried to dulpicate. Can we leave it at that?

Peter K

- -----Original Message-----
From: Marc James Small [mailto:msmall@roanoke.infi.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 10:09 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Lens Designs and history


At 08:32 PM 7/29/99 -0700, Peter Kotsinadelis wrote:
>As to thievery, well 100 years later we can argue with what Rudolph and
>others did but its long gone and they are too so they can't defend
>themselves. The Zeiss folks did borrow design ideas and reworked them.
>Geniuses or not, they "borrowed" and did not always invent regardless of
the
>label you apply.  OTOH, the the Japanese did borrow and duplicate many
>designs.  Later they also improved them. 

Peter

This is so much foolishness.  Rudolph's design of the Tessar is exceedingly
well documented and it was Kingslake's special area of interest.  And
Rudolph's assistant, Ernst Wandersleb, survived until 1964 and the folks
who interviewed HIM on this subject are very much alive.  There was no
unauthorized taking here:  the Tessar was a clear improvement on the art
sufficient to be patentable under the laws of all nations.

What the Japanese did in the decade after the War was NOT patentable, as
they made no improvements but simply did a direct copy.  

The later Japanese designs are a different story, but they come AFTER the
Japanese had made their money from the intellectual sweat of Zeiss and
Leitz designers.

Marc

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