Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/11/09

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Subject: [Leica] OT: Windsors Use Leicas!
From: Marc James Small <msmall@roanoke.infi.net>
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 16:33:03 -0500

At 03:54 PM 11/9/1999 -0000, B. D. Colen wrote:
>And isn't Windsor a nom-de-Brit that the family adopted around the time of
>WW I to hide as best they could the fact that their royal genes are German,
>not British. Weren't Kaiser Willie and George V first cousins? Prince Philip
>is a Greek, fer God's sake!

My heavens, BD, how we foul up a fairly straightforward historical record!

The reigning house of Great Britain ceased to be the Tudors upon the death
of Elizabeth I, when James VI of Scotland, a cousin, came to the throne.
His great-grand-daughter was Queen Anne, who died in 1714, bringing
(illegally or, at the least, improperly in this Celti's eyes) George I of
Hannover to the British throne, at which point the House name changes to
Hanover.  He was a distant relative of James I, but was primarily German:
he and his son, George II, never spoke English.  George II's grandson,
however, was that most-British George III, the one we spatted a bit with.
While George III did speak some German, his son, "Prinnie" (George IV) and
William IV did not, and certainly Victoria, his grand-daughter, spoke very
little until she married Albert of Saxe-Coburg (yes, he's the one who's
"been on the can for years"), when the House name becomes
Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.  Victoria's grand-son, another most-British sort, George
V, changed the House name to Windsor in 1917, when he also reduced
dramatically the use of "prince" by those of the Royal blood.  (In 1917, H
G Wells, a noted Socialist, called for the abolition of "an alien and
uninspiring monarchy", to which George V grumbled privately that,
"uninspiring I may be, but I'll be damned if I'm an alien!")

The connexions between George V, Wilhelm II, and Nicholas II were through
Victoria, not through the Germans, though the close relationship between
the Windsors and the Montbattens (and, hence, Prince Phillip) descend
through a German line, Prince Louis of Battenberg being married to the
sister of the latest Czarina.  Prince Phillip is "Greek" only by virtue of
being a member of the Greek Royal House:  his family are actually
off-shoots of the House of Hohenzollern.  (George V and Nicholas II were
both grand-sons of Victoria, the one through her eldest child, Victoria,
the wife of the "99-day Kaiser" and the other the second son of her oldest
son, "Bertie" (the future Edward VII).

In short, George V was one-quater German (Prince Albert), one quarter
English (Victoria), and one-half Danish (his mother, the sister of the
Dowager Czarina of First War fame).

Again, the Almanach de Gotha, or Debrett's, or Burke's or even Whitaker's,
will make this all crystalline to you.  It is interesting and most
important, if you are attempting to figure out precisely how we arrived at
our current state of world affairs.

Marc

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