Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/11/11

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Leica Users digest V13 #26
From: Marc Talusan <talusan@psyche.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:30:26 -0500

>Jeff Segawa wrote:
>"B. D. Colen" wrote:
>>
>> Rob Schneider pointed out in a recent post that many major manufacturers -
>> including Haselblad, Mamiya, etc. - give students steep discounts. To carry
>> that idea a step further, if I were "Herr" Cohen, I'd ask my bean counters
>> if there is any reason why the company can't offer to sell - AT COST - an M
>> body and 50 Summicron to any student majoring in photography in a recognized
>> BFA or MFA program. THAT's how to introduce Leica to a new generation of
>> photographers, a new generation who otherwise won't ever shoot with anything
>> that isn't an autoeverything reflex. But I guarantee you, once these kids
>> hold and shoot with an M, they'll sell the VCR to buy additional lenses and,
>> eventually, additional bodies.
>
>I think Leica needs to concentrate on brand recognition and image first!
>My observation has been that Leica's brand recognition has been terrible
>for some time, and Mr. Cohn seems well aware of it. In any event, the
>Leica M may not be an ideal student's camera, because rangefinder-type
>cameras may not meet certain class requirements.

I'm a 24-year-old planning to go to graduate school in photography. I got a
Leica M6 two days ago, my first. I didn't care about Che, tried to think
objectively, and tried not to be carried away by Leica's romantic image. I
carefully analyzed my photographic requirements, and decided that a
well-made camera that encouraged thoughtful photography was the way to go.

The biggest turnoff for me in the process of getting one was the attitude
of a number of the dealers I spoke to. One dealer refused to show me the
camera, claiming that it was a "high-ticket" item that is not usually
demoed or displayed. I wonder if he would have given me the same kind of
treatment if I had been over 40. Throughout the experience, I don't think
any of the four dealers I spoke to were really convinced that I was willing
to pay the money for the camera.

Today, I walked into another store to look at used lenses. I was basically
treated like I didn't know anything about photography just because I still
wasn't completely familiar with the operation of my camera. The dealer even
said, "That's a lot of camera for someone like you." I'm not sure what he
meant by this, but I infer from the statement that he thought I somehow
didn't deserve the camera because I didn't know it well enough, and that
I'm probably just some spoiled rich kid who got the camera bought for me.

In any case, my small sample has showed a clear snobbery by Leica dealers,
and an attitude that wasn't particularly open to young people like me who
are interested in learning about the Leica M.

Marc