Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/11/23

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Squares and sabotage
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:31:09 -0000

 Any environmental photo that is done in a "wham, bam, thank 
> you maam" style
> is going to look like crap, sorry. 


 Any endeavor done in this 
> manner is
> going to turn out as crap.  

THAT's the point...;-)

B. D.

> There is more to photography than photojournalism.
> 
> Dan C.
> 
> At 09:26 AM 23-11-99 EST, Ruralmopics@aol.com wrote:
> >Not to step into the middle of a pissing match but I will 
> offer this: I have 
> >often found myself knocking off a quick environmental 
> portrait to illustrate 
> >a story when I didn't have time to do something more substantial.
> Documentary 
> >photojournalism takes time. It takes time to establish a 
> rapport with your 
> >subject so they will relax and let down their guard. It also 
> takes times to 
> >just BE THERE when the moments happen. The environmental 
> portrait -- as E.W. 
> >and I seem to understand the term -- is a quick and dirty 
> shot. In the worst 
> >case it's 5-10 minutes and you're done -- wham, bam, thank 
> you mamam. Of 
> >course, this is the worst case -- in other words, the very 
> thing that I 
> >called a cliche. I've done it. I suspect Eric has done it. I 
> imagine you can 
> >ask any newspaper photographer and they've done it. That's 
> not to say there 
> >aren't very good examples of the style -- I've even made a 
> few of those -- 
> >but so often it's a crutch for a photographer in a hurry (or 
> there at the 
> >wrong time).
> >
> >Bob (photographic confession is good for the soul) McEowen
> >
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 11/22/99 10:32:45 PM, ewelch@neteze.com writes:
> >
> >>Environmental portraits are easier 
> >>to do, because you can say to the person "Sit over there." 
> You can take
> >>
> >>your time. You can think about it. You don't need to react 
> fast, and you
> >>
> >>have plenty of time to do it right. Photojournalists do it 
> all the time
> >>as 
> >>well (portraits).
> >
> >
> 
> NO ARCHIVE
> 
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