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Subject: [Leica] RE: Winder M4-2 Questions???? Who KNOWS!?!
From: "Bill Campbell" <billc@clark.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:01:06 -0500

Bob,

Here's what the "Bower" book says:

Leica Winder     M6     M4-P     M4-2

M                 y      y        y
M4-P              y      y        y
M4-2(from #10350) y      y        y
M4-2( to  #10349) n      y*       y

*serial #s 1522500 - 1552884 & 1563000 - 1588536 must be adapted by
Technical Service

I have an early M4-2 Winder 14214 (serial 10218) with 14227 Battery Pack, it
only winds (no continuous firing). I don't have a M6 (yet! <g>), but I'm
pretty sure it (my Winder) wouldn't work based on the above info. I think
the one forsale on e-bay would have worked with a M6 according to the serial
number.

I think the numbers might be transposed here "from serial 31035 all" in the
e-mail you received, maybe should be 10335?, which would be pretty close to
what Bower says.

Bill Campbell
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:42:11 -0400
From: kabob@tiac.net (Bob Keene/Karen Shehade)
Subject: [Leica] Winder M4-2 Questions???? Who KNOWS!?!

Hi group-

Ok, why, I don't know- but I'm feeling like I want a winder for my M6 (yes,
I have a Rapidwinder- shut up!)
My questions revolve around the M4-2 winder. According to Matheson *some*
M4-2 winders have #14 400 (will work with M6, M4-P) and some are  #14 414
(which will NOT work with M4-P and M6) and BOTH share the battery pack #14
227.... ok?
Now- additional confusing information is:

>
>Hello Bob:  In case you decide to bid on the winder...the box is marked
>code # 14 400 and the winder works fine on my M6 and my M4-2.  A little
>note packed inside the box with the winder reads "from serial 31035 all
>M4-2 winders code # 14 214 are identical with code #14 400.  The serial #
>of this winder is #14032 and it is engraved on the lock.  The battery pack
>does read # 14 227.