Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/01/18

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: LUGPhotographic skills
From: Peterson Arthur G NSSC <PetersonAG@NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:59:49 -0500

Eric Welch wrote:

		This is the same as people who claim no-one can see the
differences between
		lenses. They have good imaginations, because they've never
seen a
		difference, regardless if there is or not.

That leads one to ask: how are people to tell whether differences they can
see (or cannot see) between lenses are seen (or not seen) because those
differences are there (or not there), or whether those seen (or unseen)
differences are merely products of their imaginations?  :-)

Art Peterson


		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Eric Welch [mailto:ewelch@neteze.com]
		Sent:	Tuesday, January 18, 2000 11:24 AM
		To:	leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
		Subject:	[Leica] Re: LUGPhotographic skills

		Sometime around 1/18/00 6:29 AM, Erwin Puts at
imxputs@knoware.nl mumbled
		something about:

		> (Same scene, both negatives developed
		> according to the rules). Some teachers quickly identifed
the
		> condenser and diffuser prints, some used a longer time but
eventually
		> made a positive choice. Of course I cheated: all prints
were
		> identical. So the upshot is this: humans will see
differences when
		> told there are differences.

		All that proves is that the teachers have good imaginations.
It did not
		prove that there is no difference between condensor and
diffusion enlargers,
		which is well established.

		This is the same as people who claim no-one can see the
differences between
		lenses. They have good imaginations, because they've never
seen a
		difference, regardless if there is or not.

		--

		Eric Welch
		Carlsbad, CA 

		http://www.neteze.com/ewelch

		Computers can never replace human stupidity.