Re: [Leica] Gandy vs. Puts

[Mark Rabiner <mrabiner@concentric.net>]

Stephen Gandy wrote:
> 
> Right you are Mark.
> 
> That's why your grandly built M6
> 
> 1) went through more than its share of film counter problems several years
> ago when Leica changed to plastic components to save costs
> 2) why there are so many reports of unusually high M6 TTL battery consumption
> on the LUG
> 3) why all the best repair people that I have talked to, who don't want to be
> named because they don't want to piss Leica off, are unanimous in the M6
> being a less well made camera.
> 4) why the M6 's RF/VF has a flare problem which has been a topic of
> conversation for years on the LUG -- just check the archives.  It's cause is
> a change in the M rangefinder/viewfinder during the M4-2 run to lower
> production costs (parts were taken out)  -- and this was confirmed by the
> head of Repair at Solms
> 
> The gibberish is yours Mark.  Not that you can't be a fine source of
> information, but you stubbornly refuse to see the obvious when you don't want
> to, and become abusive to those who do.   On the other hand, maybe you really
> can't tell the difference.
> 
> I didn't say the M6 is not an excellent camera, it is. The problem is that it
> is not as well built, in functional or cosmetic terms, as the M4 and  earlier
> M's.   I like this string, it's a  LUG oldie that comes up at least once a
> year.
> 
> Stephen Gandy
> 
> Marc James Small wrote:
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Oops here I am typing and I see that Mark is really Marc.
What I have to say anyway is my new second body is a TTL and it has the same set
of batteries it had in it 4 months ago when I bought it. I've put about 30 rolls
of film though it. I'm afraid to mention this out loud. My M6 which I have had
for almost 7 years does need to be turned to B when I am not using it and does
seem to need batteries every month or so especially if I leave it on. I've left
the TTL on by the way and it's supposed to be worse for that than the older
model SO THEY SAY.  I love both my M6's. I use them. I own them. I put much film
through them. Neither camera has ever been in the shop for longer than five
minutes. My first M6 I've dropped numerous times onto all kinds of surfaces, the
sidewalk included. They take a licking and keep on ticking!!!! I know I use
them. 
Gandy/Johnson have a million fine points for us about the problems of the M6
camera they don't own or use. But this they know from all kinds of reputable
experts. I'm  much more interested in hearing about the fine points of my camera
negative or positive from people who use them. The factory workers all thought
the M3 DS was the best Leica The repairman might like the "build" of the M4. But
who is out using these cameras day in and day out? Us Leica users that's who.
And if some of the stuff inside my cameras is punched out instead of diecast I
don't care they still work as they have always worked.
Mark Rabiner