Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/01/23

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji building an M
From: "Robert Bedwell" <rlb@triad.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:59:33 -0500

I just got out of the darkroom and I am sitting here listening to Bartok.  I
wonder how many LUGGERS could accept music from such an abstract composer?
I remember a year ago the topic of conversation was about the new TTL and
how Leica has ruined the camera.  They complained about the additional 2mm
height and the change in the shutter speed dial and, of course, who needs
TTL.

The bottom line is that they won't have a damn thing to say about a new
Leica company and they will still bitch if changes are made or not.

There are about six LUGGERs that need to find another life and make it
inviting for others to participate.

I totally agree that Leica needs to make lenses for other camera brands.

Back to Bartok...........screech-pow-argh-eek!

Bob
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter)" <peterk@lucent.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Fuji building an M


> I agree wholeheartedly.  Bob, good to see someone on the LUG is open
minded.
>
> PK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Bedwell [mailto:rlb@triad.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 10:56 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji building an M
>
>
> Peter.....you are correct, in my opinion.  However, this doesn't mean that
> they should replace the existing M6.  There is and will continue to be a
> demand for a manual system. Leica cannot continue to operate an
unprofitable
> public company.  They are backed in the corner and to continue R&D they
must
> progress and a marriage with a profitable photographic company is a sure
> thing in my opinion.
>
> I would certainly purchase one as you have described because of the
lenses.
> After all it is the picture that we are after isn't it?
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter)" <peterk@lucent.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 12:31 PM
> Subject: [Leica] Fuji building an M
>
>
> > Having read loading problems cause by the M bottom loading system, I too
> had
> > a similar problem.  I hope that if Fuji buys Leica they will force them
> into
> > designing an easier and smarter loading system. The botom loading was
good
> > in the 30's but come on, what a pain in the ass.
> > Better yet, imagine a modern M design (similar to the XPan) made by Fuji
> > with average and spot metering, a 100% viewfinder (like the M3) that
will
> > allow use of more focal lengths especially wide angle, a metal shutter
> > curtain to gain faster shutter and faster flash sync speeds and not
worry
> > about holes in the darn curtain, with motorized loading with a flip up
> back
> > like every other manufacturer uses including Leica's R cameras.  Face
it,
> > the reason we use the M is not the camera, its the lenses which have
> > transcended time with their wonderful resolution capabilities.  If Fuji
> > built an M like Konica I would certainly be interested, especially if it
> use
> > M glass.
> >
> > Peter K