Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/03/25

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Photos on the Web
From: Greg Locke <locke@straylight.ca>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:08:21 -03-30

At 10:45 PM 24/03/00 -0500, you wrote:

>Stock is different.  In stock, generally, the photographer paid for the
>materials, and sought out the subject matter, and was not compensated for
>any of the time, so the photographer too ALL the risk.
>
>Commercial shoots, and compensation, and stock shoots, and compensation,
>are completely different.

         Commercial and editorial shoots ARE the stock shoots. I am paid to 
produce an image that they can use. The materials that go into that are 
simply a part of the fee... it grants them no special ownership beyond the 
agreed fee for usage. The pictures are then, after an agreed period in the 
contract, available to me to use in my stock file.

I respect your right not to answer but I have to ask...

Are you a full time professional photographer.
What is your day rate?
Do you base any of your rates on the clients usage?

If a painter sells a painting, does the buyer purcahse the "product" and 
the right to hang it on his wall or does he also own the right to reproduce?

What you are saying and your attitude toward the business would come as a 
shock to most professional commercial and editorial photographers. If fact, 
if you said this on a working pro list, I can't imagine the abuse and 
flaming that would be heaped on you. You are lucky you are on the Ever 
Gentleman-like LUG,

  We as professionals spend a lot of time and effort countering the damage 
done by such "amateur" attitudes towards business, copyright infringement 
and ownership issues. It's sad when I actually meet someone who might be 
responsible for all that work. You really are missing a fundamental 
principle of this business.

It's not engineering or landscaping.

sincerely,




Greg Locke                         St. John's, Newfoundland
locke@straylight.ca              http://www.straylight.ca/locke
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