RE: [Leica] Photos on the Web, TED!! help?

[Austin Franklin <austin@darkroom.com>]

> >A very liberal point of view.

> No, a very BUSINESS point of view. Politics is something different and I
> never mix the two.

Though you may not like it, it IS a liberal point of view.  By any 
definition of 'liberal'.

>  running a business that ensures a long,
> secure and prosperous future for my family. That requires protecting,
> controlling and benefiting from the fruits of my labour beyond the
> immediate recompense of a "day rate"

Why?  If you should be, then so should every one else, even the models, 
caterers, guy who made the camera, make up artist etc etc.!  Do you believe 
you are better than everyone else?

> Even beyond your personal views about professional business practice
> (that's your problem) what amazes me most

It isn't a problem for me, but seems to be for you.  Why the need to be 
insulting, instead of discuss the issue?

>, I think, is that so far you a
> have compared your work to:

> - building a fence
> - running a sub shop.
> - landscape architecture
> - engineering
> ... and common trades work.

Engineering is now a common trade?

You are misrepresenting the conversation here.  I NEVER compared MY work to 
any of these.  They were uses as examples of other occupations that can be 
said to have some 'artistic' content to their work.

> This, in itself, tells us volumes about how much value you place on your
> work and professional photography in general. So it should come as no
> surprise to the rest of those on the list that you conduct business in 
the
> manner that you do.

It is clear you are only trying to run away from actually discussing the 
real issue when you resort to being personally insulting.

> it is truly unfortunate that a professional photographer does not place a 
> higher value on his work and talent then that of a fence or sub sandwich.

Those are YOUR words, NOT mine.  I never valued, or de-valued my work, 
especially associating it with other occupations.  Please don't put words 
in my mouth.

It appears this is going no where, you don't want to discuss the issue, and 
I don't appreciate the personal attacks.  How about we just agree we 
disagree and spare the LUG the body count?