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Subject: Re: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
From: "Simon Lamb" <s_lamb@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:47:38 +0100
References: <FF35E3FF577ED211953500A0C9DF195B1166ED@mail.gfigmbh.de>

It is a piece of white card that has the serial number and description of
the lens.  You send it to Leica and get a passport back.  If it is not there
then it may well be secondhand.

Simon

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Javad Fatemi" <jfatemi@gfigmbh.de>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 10:01 AM
Subject: RE: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH


>
> Simon,
>
> I did not see such a passport, sorry, but I'm very new to this area. How
> does it look?
>
>
> Regards
>
> *****************************************
> Javad Fatemi
> GFI Fax & Voice GmbH
> Technical Department
> Email: jfatemi@gfigmbh.de
> Internet: http://www.gfifax.de
> Tel: +49-40-3068100
> Fax: +49-40-306810-10
> *****************************************
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Lamb [mailto:s_lamb@compuserve.com]
> Sent: Thu, May 18, 2000 10:05 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
>
>
> Javad
>
> I would assume that if it were secondhand there would be no passport
> papers
> inside the box as the original owner would most likely have sent them
> off.
>
> Simon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Javad Fatemi" <jfatemi@gfigmbh.de>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 8:24 AM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
>
>
> >
> > I bought yesterday APO R-Elmarit 2.8/180 and I noticed the same very
> > small white thing. I don't thing that it it was for example a second
> > hand lens. I  took that, because I wanted it. For me is important to
> > find this out, second hand or no. Any idea if there is a way...
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > *****************************************
> > Javad Fatemi
> > GFI Fax & Voice GmbH
> > Technical Department
> > Email: jfatemi@gfigmbh.de
> > Internet: http://www.gfifax.de
> > Tel: +49-40-3068100
> > Fax: +49-40-306810-10
> > *****************************************
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Cardish [mailto:dcardish@microtec.net]
> > Sent: Wed, May 17, 2000 4:04 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
> >
> >
> > It probably makes no difference, performance wise.  On the other hand
> > being
> > hand made implies that someone in the factory should have held the
> lens
> > in
> > their hands and noticed these things, just as you did.
> >
> > Dan C.
> >
> > At 03:35 PM 17-05-00 +0100, Simon Lamb wrote:
> > >Hi
> > >
> > >I need an urgent response to this or I may miss the opportunity to
> get
> > the
> > >lens.  I looked at a new 90mm f/2 APO ASPH today and noticed two
> > things.  At
> > >the side of the top curved element there was a small bit of white
> > substance
> > >trapped between the lens and the inside screw thread.  It was very
> > small and
> > >when I tried to brush it away there was a very fine and small hair
> > attached.
> > >The item seemed trapped and would not move and was, as I said very
> > small.
> > >
> > >There was also a small mark on one of the internal elements.  I have
> > seen
> > >this on other lenses and they work fine.
> > >
> > >My question.  I did not take the lens because I figured for my £1,200
> > pounds
> > >I should get a lens without any marks or trapped bits.  Am I being
> > overly
> > >fussy and do you feel that this is within acceptable limits of
> > acceptance
> > >considering it is a Leica (hand made) and therefore subject to some
> > >imperfections?
> > >
> > >I need a quick response before they sell the lens to someone else.  I
> > have
> > >already waited four weeks for it and, having held it gently in my
> arms,
> > I
> > >want it back!
> > >
> > >Simon
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jason Hall" <JASON@jbhall.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 1:00 PM
> > >Subject: [Leica] Leicaflex SL MOT
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Following earlier posts about SL MOT
> > >> production numbers, I had the following reply
> > >> from Leica UK to an email I directed at
> > >> Solms:-
> > >>
> > >> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> > >> "The s/n 1278xxx was allocated to a batch of
> > >> Leicaflex SL's in 1970. As was often the
> > >> practice this number (not being used in that
> > >> batch) would have been carried over to be
> > >> used in a  later production  run, i.e. -
> > >> Leicaflex SL MOT.   We have no details of any
> > >> prototypes, and modification to the original
> > >> SL is unlikely".
> > >> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> > >>
> > >> I followed this up with a phone call and
> > >> their rep claimed that despite the fact that
> > >> some of the serial numbers fell outside of
> > >> the designated batches, there were, as far as
> > >> he was aware only 980 SL MOT''s made,
> > >> production was limited to 72-74, he also said
> > >> that there were probably far less than 980 SL
> > >> specific motor drives made.  Contrary to the
> > >> above mail he said that some of the MOT's
> > >> outside of the designated serial number
> > >> runs may have been modified SL's.
> > >>
> > >> This doesn't really clarify anything, but I
> > >> hope its of interest.
> > >>
> > >> Jason
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >

In reply to: Message from Javad Fatemi <jfatemi@gfigmbh.de> (RE: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH)