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Subject: Re: [Leica]So long, Flare, we overknew ye.... was Shadow boxing
From: Edward Meyers <aghalide@panix.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 14:26:24 -0400 (EDT)

Thank you for this evaluation. Ed

On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Henning J. Wulff wrote:

> At 2:20 AM -0400 8/8/00, ralph fuerbringer wrote:
> >  sincd ed meyers hides behind a magnum name with his flare infatuation i'm
> >offering one in rebuttal. philip jones-griffiths is not just a photographer
> >of equal repute but is a technician without an equal among magnum
> >photograpers.  i once asked Philip Jones-Griffiths whether to get the
> >preflashing attachment for the bowens famous slide copier. he said it was
> >not just valueless but a handicap. he was doing or supervising (president of
> >magnum at the time) tons of slide copying. if preflashing w/precise control
> >is a handicap in a labratory setup what does
> >the degrading imput of flare from an uncoated lens add to an outdoor
> >portrait? meyers and wulff claim this is why the preflashing effect works:
> >flare is so pushy and fast it gets to your film before your actual picture!
> >flaretheewell,ralph
> 
> Maybe he likes the extra punch and lack of detail in shadows that that will
> bring. Using the pre-flashing with the Bowens Illumitran does indeed help
> control contrast at times. I had one for a while and found the pre-flash
> definitely worthwhile for many shots. If you are using the regular slide
> duplicating film the effort is often not worth the trouble, but the effect
> is unmistakable.
> 
> Maybe he was referring to the use of the pre-flash when he had a ton of
> images to copy and time was more important than ultimate contrast control?
> 
> It's a 'handicap' if you consider a flatter image a handicap.
> 
> As you generally gain contrast in copying, and usually shift the HD curve
> as well, you usually need to reduce contrast. You do this best by starting
> off with a slide duplicating film matched to your taking film as well as
> possible, then try to lift the toe area out of the murk a bit by
> pre-flashing. Fairly straighforward.
> 
>    *            Henning J. Wulff
>   /|\      Wulff Photography & Design
>  /###\   mailto:henningw@archiphoto.com
>  |[ ]|     http://www.archiphoto.com
> 

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