Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/11/05

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Books
From: Walter S Delesandri <walt@jove.acs.unt.edu>
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:32:54 -0600 (CST)

Thanks, Johnny, and yes, they have to make some shots on 4x5 
in their second semester, not many, but enough to make 'em 
appreciate/despise the format!!!

Walt

On Sun, 5 Nov
2000, Johnny Deadman wrote:

> I think that's all pretty sound advice, actually. I'd give them a meter for
> a week and make them make notes of exposures, then I'd take it away from
> them. I find myself shooting without a meter a LOT these days and haven't
> noticed the slightest difference from my metered shots. On chrome I probably
> would.
> 
> You could steal all my lenses except the 35/1.4 and I wouldn't cry.
> 
> The other thing that I would suggest (and I wish someone had done this to
> me) is that they shoot one really good shot with a bigger camera. Nothing
> gets you face to face with the nuts and bolts of photography than having to
> expose a sheet of film, focus by moving the lens back and forth on the
> track, remember to do things in the right sequence etc etc. Then tray
> develop the negative!! Then contact print it!! Not only does this lay bare
> all the mechanics of photography, it also gets you in touch with the maximum
> possible achievable quality. After that you have something to judge the rest
> of your efforts by. And it is a good corrective (the reason I've been doing
> it) to spooling through film thoughtlessly.
> 
> on 5/11/00 12:56 pm, Walter S Delesandri at walt@jove.acs.unt.edu wrote:
> 
> > I have told students for years, and been universally ignored,
> > that they should use a 35mm camera and a 50mm lens.  Period.
> > When they ask "what should I buy", I tell them that when they
> > need something else, they WON'T have to ask...If they have
> > to ask what they "need", they dont' "need" anything.
> > 
> > I also believe that they should have NO meter for the first
> > course or two...Not a TTL meter, not ANY meter...that they
> > should master the ability to expose B&W, at least, in common
> > shooting conditions, without a meter.
> > 
> > Funny story:....I had a faculty friend a number of years back.
> > Arrogant would not describe...it'd be an insult to arrogant
> > people....this dimwit told a story of how he went on a trip
> > out west photographing with Fuji RDP (100 ISO chrome).  Because
> > of his meter failing him, he trashed ALL his shots, by FOUR
> > stops.   Bear in mind, he was photographing in broad daylight,
> > with a tripod, and was off FOUR stops?.....But he was teaching
> > photography to your children.
> > 
> > A camera, a lens (35 or 50 who cares?) lots of CHEAP film and
> > lots of CHEAP paper....after a coupla years, they'll either
> > be photogaphers, or not.  The "nots" need to find something
> > else to do.  After they are good with B&W, they should NEXT
> > shoot slow transparency film (100 asa or less)...AND they
> > should look critically at color, at the same time....and learn
> > to filter/correct/predict it....this will be a natural extension
> > and refinement of their B&W skills, NOT a replacement for them.
> 
> -- 
> Johnny Deadman
> 
> http://www.pinkheadedbug.com
> 
> 
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