Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/03/09

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Subject: Re: [Leica] zoom scandal
From: "Dr. Joseph Yao" <joseph@yao.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:29:59 +0800

And for you madam, it's JUDGEMENTAL.

Seriously, it is inappropriate for you to judge all characters without
actually knowing them.  A lot of issues you put forward were also far from
accurate.

Regards,

Joseph Yao 


on 9/3/01 1:59 PM, Amanda Baker at amandabaker80@yahoo.ca wrote:

> The recent 35-70/2.8 zoom scandal in fact boils down
> to three words: GOODWILL, GREED and GRANDIOSITY.
> But it is so intriguing that so many of you got mixed
> up in the thread.
> 
> J Collier:  GOODWILL misinterpreted as stumbling
> block, but in fact only a stumbling block to the
> realisation of someone else's greed.  How nice a guy
> to have in the LUG who did this not for his own
> materialistic gain!
> 
> E Lowi:  Simple GREED.  Who wanted to strike the iron
> when it?s still hot, and got himself burned.
> 
> J Yao:  (1) GRANDIOSITY. No doubt he is a very rich
> man: just think even if Leica sold him the zoom at the
> original price of USD1.5k, cash upfront for 1000
> lenses would be USD1.5M.  But WHAT IF Leica really
> agreed to his terms?  Yao is a gray-market seller.
> Would it be fair to all the authorized Leica agents in
> the whole world?  No man with a sound mind will
> believe that he would keep all 1000 lenses.  Did he
> ever say he would sell it to fellow LUGgers with a
> non-profit-making margin?  Yes, he needn?t do that.
> But then, you understand......
> 
> There is no problem with profit-making.  It?s only his
> grandiose overtones that made one feel uncomfortable:
> remember he said in the past nearly any product will
> come by should he increase the offer?  This time his
> monetary might could not get Leica to yield, and thus
> his frustration and constant whining and denigratoty
> remarks to Solms thereafter.
> 
> (2) GREED. At the time when he had not got this zoom,
> I sympathized with his Leicaholic crave, because as he
> said he "still missed one tool in his toolbox." But
> when he?s got more than a dozen of it, and still wants
> more, you understand.......... just simple user or
> gray market seller?
> 
> Simon?s Cameras:  GREED if they sold the lense to
> someone who offered more.  But what if they sold to
> the final buyer at the same price?  Just procedural
> mistake?  
> 
> Amanda Baker
> 
> 
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