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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: FW: Kodak Makes Improvements to B&W Films
From: "mdelman" <mdelman@rochester.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:51:28 -0500
References: <4.1.20010326152418.03a59680@xsj02.sjs.agilent.com>

Jim:

Can't agree with you more.  Digital still has too many negatives relative to
film including: lower quality, more work for consumers, slow at home print
times, poor online print options etc. etc.

The best of both worlds is using film and buying a film scanner to edit, and
crop, and delete unwanted parts of the photo.

You then print out at a digital minilab and keep your slides or negatives
for the future when who-knows-what digital technology exists.

The scanner option takes work....but its worth the learning curve.

- -Mark
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Brick" <jim_brick@agilent.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>; "LEG" <leica@topica.com>; "SP"
<streetphoto@topica.com>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 6:40 PM
Subject: [Leica] Re: FW: Kodak Makes Improvements to B&W Films


> What the hell is the matter with those people at Kodak! Don't they know
> that film is dead. That the current crop of digital cameras will blow film
> cameras out of the water. And digital theaters are but a breath away.
>
> Or did they actually look at the state of digital and decide that it is
> indeed going to be a long while before Leicas, Hasselblads, Linhofs,
Arris,
> etc, are out gunned by a digital sensor. Unless you have a couple of
> hundred grand to squander. Make that a couple hundred million. Maybe a
billion.
>
> Film is alive and well and still producing the best photographic results.
>
> Long live Super-XX (I wish.) Long heel, long toe. The champion of dynamic
> range.
>
> I suppose XX will be different, but I'll bet it's good.
>
> Jim
>
>
> At 11:50 AM 3/20/01 -0500, Steve LeHuray wrote:
> >I received this press release from Kodak this morning for new motion
picture
> >film and we can expect this to be soon available for stills.
> >
> >Steve
> >Annapolis
> >
> >----------
> >From: Lisa Muldowney
> >To:
> >Subject: Kodak Makes Improvements to B&W Films
> >Date: Tue, Mar 20, 2001, 11:43 AM
> >
> >
> >Kodak Improves
> >Two Black-And-White Films
> >
> >ROCHESTER, NY, March 20-Kodak has introduced markedly improved versions
of
> >the company's two popular black-and-white motion picture negative films.
The
> >new films incorporate advances in base and manufacturing technologies
with
> >an emphasis on improving ruggedness and physical performance.
> >"Our goal is to leverage advances in technology to enable filmmakers to
> >record pristine black-and-white images," says Marian Herz, product
marketing
> >manager for Kodak's Entertainment Imaging division. "This is another
paint
> >for their palette. We designed and developed physical characteristics for
> >these films based upon suggestions made by cinematographers who choose to
> >work in black-and-white format for aesthetic reasons."
> >The new films have the same subtleties in tone scale that filmmakers
expect.
> >The main improvements are in physical performance, including a
> >scratch-resistant backing enhanced with a built-in lubricant. It also has
a
> >rugged top layer that protects the emulsion during transport in the
camera
> >and in processing at the laboratory. These improvements allow better
> >transport and reduced noise characteristics in the camera. The new films
are
> >also designed to keep longer with decreased risk of ferrotyping.
> >The new EASTMAN PLUS-X Negative Film 5231/7231 is optimized for an
exposure
> >index of 80 in daylight (5500 degrees Kelvin) or 25 in tungsten light
(3200
> >degrees Kelvin). The new EASTMAN DOUBLE-X Negative Film 5222/7222 is
> >optimized for an exposure index of 250 in daylight and 200 in tungsten
> >light.
>
>

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