Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/05/04

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Subject: Re: [Leica] leica nikon or canon for macro work (was quality control)
From: McFadden Peter <leicausergroup@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:27:05 +0100 (BST)

The DOF point I was making was more to do with the
fact that as more light can reach the subject you can
use a smaller appature while still freezing the
movement with a reasonable shutter speed. 

- --- Ken Iisaka <ken@iisaka.org> wrote: > I'm adding to
my original mail as below:
> 
> I am also not fond of ringlight, because the light
> is completely flat.  I'd
> rather use natural light with a tripod, with a
> diffuser and/or a reflector.
> Ring light flash produces images that are almost too
> anatomical and
> scientific for my taste.
> 
> You don't get more DOF by using a longer lens
> either.  DOF is a function of
> magnification, and the focal lengh really has
> nothing to do with it.  While
> I occasionally used the manual-focus Micro-Nikkor
> 200mm/1:4 lens for a
> while, I found the lens to be harsh, and not
> particularly useful except for
> insect photography.  For flowers, I would much
> prefer a shorter focal length
> (50-60mm).  I even used a Nikon 28mm/1:2.8 lens that
> lets you focus down to
> 20cm for flower photographs with successful results.
> 
> I wrote:
> > I don't know why you wouldn't recommend an R8, or
> a Leica for close-ups.
> > Macro-Elmarit 60mm is a brilliant lens, and what I
> hear of APO
> Macro-Elmarit
> > 100mm is nothing short of brilliant.  I've used a
> Micro-Nikkor 55mm
> 1:2.8S,
> > but I ended up selling it (last week on eBay)
> because I was never
> satisfied
> > of the colour rendition.
> >
> > Indeed, autofocus is unnecessary, or even
> disadvantageous for close-up
> > photography.  It is important to have a brilliant
> focussing screen for
> > accurate focussing, and Leicaflex SL, SL2, and R8
> are among the best.
> Nikon
> > F3 has just a brilliant viewfinder, but you cannot
> use Leica glass with it
> > (not without a lot of pain)
> >
> > > I have done a lot of macro on flowers and can
> > > recommend the Nikon with ring flash.
> > >
> > > If you don't want or use flash try to get the
> 200mm
> > > micro nikkor the extra distance from the subject
> > > allows much more light and enables much better
> frame
> > > filling and better DOF.
> > >
> > > I found manual focus is much better for macro
> work as
> > > you can choose the critical point of focus which
> is
> > > not always in the centre of the frame.
> > >
> > > --- Kyle Cassidy <cassidy@netaxs.com> wrote: >
> >(snip)
> > > . . . I have things narrowed down to an R8,
> > > > an F3 which comes
> > > > >with some great glassware, or a new EOS body
> with a
> > > > 28 to 70 f2.8  L
> > > > >lens. I need an SLR because I do a lot of
> close ups
> > > > of flowers. (I've
> > > > >heard, by the way, that the Leica 60mm macro
> is a
> > > > hell of a lens.)
> >
> >
> >
> 


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