Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/05/08

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Subject: Re: [Leica] 21 SA
From: Mark Rabiner <mark@rabiner.cncoffice.com>
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:33:50 -0700
References: <001401c0d7aa$07136e60$24a1abd4@computer>

Robert Appleby Personal wrote:
> 
> >>
> When mounted on the camera the 21/3.4 is
> extremely compact, while the 21 ASPH seems huge by comparison, especially
> with its
> steroidal shade.
> >>>
> 
> I use the 24/2.8 which is a wonderful lens but the size bothers me a bit
> also. So I just leave the shade off and use a filter as a combined
> shade/filter. Yes, use a filter as a filter! What will I think of next...
> 
> I find the 24 with the shade just clumsy-looking. And a filter ring stops
> where the shade starts, on the long side, which seems to indicate that it'll
> do a comparable job. Two rings vignette (I tried it).
> 
> Actually I went into my local camera shop yesterday  specifically to look at
> the 0.58 M6 with a 24/4 skopar mounted on it. Unfortunately the 0.58 is
> still not wide enough to give an approximate 24 coverage, which is a shame
> because the skopar doesn't protrude into the finder very much.
> 
> I wonder whether that guy who does the 21 goggles adaptation would be able
> to do it for a 24 also? Maybe on the skopar?
> 
> Would Tom know the answer?
> 
> I've got my wallet right here!
> 
> Rob.

The answer, Robert would be the new 28 which seems much more compact than the 24
but with a different lens shade on it as 

although it's a compact lens it's lens shade is elongated like the one on the
35. 1.4 Asph.

I have the opposite opinion on this stuff. If i have a filter on the Len, and
that would be a yellow green, not a UV I then even MORE I want a lens shade on
the camera.

If i have a lot of exposed glass to the elements i want it curved!!
Like Ted and his Noctilux...

The exception is on my 24 using a polarizing filter. Had to leave the shade at
home on that deal.
I do LOVE the shade on the 24. IT's so cinematographic!
It REALLY looks like it's doing something even though when a lens has an angle
THAT wide how much of a lens shade can you have and how much is it going to-do?
These newer longer ones on the new 28 and on the 35 Summilux Asph are really
something else though. Leica seems determined to shade light on their wide
angles no other company has gone this far with these things.
They should cough up a plan B shade for the less wide angle shade inclined.
From what i saw of the new .58 camera it really is the answer for wide angle photography.
I can see the framelines of my 35 with my glasses on. It seems perfect. I'm
sold! It's just when?


Mark Rabiner

Portland, Oregon
USA

http://www.rabiner.cncoffice.com/

In reply to: Message from "Robert Appleby Personal" <rob@robertappleby.com> ([Leica] 21 SA)