Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/08/01

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Quality versus Medium Format
From: Bill Satterfield <cwsat@istate.net>
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:45:05 -0500
References: <FJEAJICBHEDNLMABPNCPGEODCCAA.george@rdcinteractive.com> <OE258Q9eqwZ2cFXvmBU000017ae@hotmail.com> <3B6853C6.64716B13@earthlink.net> <OE35ldBvxUO8o1iGBGI00005301@hotmail.com>

How long  have you been on the :LUG? Do you have anything else to do? Do you use all
formats?

Mxsmanic wrote:

> B. D. Colen writes:
>
> > Come on, Anthony, try really, really hard not
> > to be a total a** for a change.
>
> Why doesn't anyone just answer the question?  Why do my questions get personal
> attacks in response, instead of legitimate answers?
>
> Just what exactly is "brutal sharpness"?  If it has an objective existence, it
> can be explained, and that can be done without any resort to puerile invective.
>
> What I find here is that whenever I question something that appears to be pure
> mythology, I am assaulted by a tidal wave of emotional responses apparently
> intended to distract attention from the fact that there is no real-world basis
> for the myth (a tactic that doesn't work with me, in case you have not noticed).
> With respect to the question at hand, if Zeiss lenses are indeed "brutally"
> sharp (the implication being that sharpness is not a good thing), I'd like to
> see this quantified in some objective way.  I base my evaluations of equipment
> and images on objective information, not emotion, or myth, or hearsay, or
> good-old-boy networks.  It would be nice if other people here could grow up a
> little, drop the personal attacks against me, and just answer questions and
> discuss issues in an objective way.  It's tiring to deal with people who behave
> like spoiled children on a playground.  It doesn't exactly enhance the image of
> Leica, either, since a disproportionate number of Leica owners (if this list is
> representative) seem afflicted by this immaturity.  No wonder the company and
> its customers get so much bad press (I'm just glad I pressed on with my
> discovery of Leica, anyway, despite the wailing children).
>
> I am unconcerned by all the off-topic bandwidth consumed by many others on this
> list--inane conversations concerning alcohol, war, politics, and the like--as I
> just skip anything that doesn't interest me.  Go ahead and ramble.  However, if
> you are going to respond to a post or question of _mine_, please keep your
> response on topic, and do not waste my time with some juvenile personal attack.

Replies: Reply from "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@hotmail.com> (Re: [Leica] Leica Quality versus Medium Format)
In reply to: Message from "George Day" <george@rdcinteractive.com> (RE: [Leica] Leica Quality versus Medium Format)
Message from "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@hotmail.com> (Re: [Leica] Leica Quality versus Medium Format)
Message from "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> (Re: [Leica] Leica Quality versus Medium Format)
Message from "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@hotmail.com> (Re: [Leica] Leica Quality versus Medium Format)