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Subject: Re: [Leica] lower classes don't use leicas?
From: ternahan <ternahan@sonic.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 22:19:44 -0700

And I am very glad you contribute to this list!
trish
ternahan@gentlelens.net


> From: "Sonny Carter" <sonc@gmx.net>
> Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 23:30:38 -0500
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] lower classes don't use leicas?
> 
> Olivier,
> 
> You must be very proud of your parents.
> 
> Regards,
> Sonny
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nguyen,  T [AMSTA-AR-CCF]" <onguyen@pica.army.mil>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] lower classes don't use leicas?
> 
> 
>> 
>> sONC,
>> I completely agree with you.  not all janitors are thieves
> or poor people
>> are thieves also not having leica.  I have 2 leicas now.
> one is M6TTL and
>> another is an R8.  I am not a doctor, not a lawyer, or any
> business man at
>> all or professional photographer (i wish one day i would
> be) but i still own
>> leica stuff.
>> 
>> It is just depend on how personality of each person to be
> a thieves instead
>> of all poor people or not intelligence.
>> 
>> My parents use to work really hard as an assembler and
> janitor to support me
>> 4 years in college (for my room and board + extra money
> for books and food)
>> and they never still anything from anyone.  nor they are
> not intelligence.
>> both of my parents are very educated people.  they could
> not get a job in US
>> because when they came to US, they already old.  instead
> of go school again
>> and fight so hard for more book to retake the degree, they
> sacrify
>> themselves for me and my sisters in order we young kids
> has a better future.
>> Not all poor people are thieves or not intelligence or not
> own a leica.  or
>> LEICA ARE OWN BY HIGH CLASS OR WHAT EVER.  IT IS JUST A
> BEAUTIFUL TOOL FOR
>> SOME ONE WHO LIKE IT.
>> Olivier
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sonny Carter [mailto:sonc@gmx.net]
>> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:34 PM
>> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] lower classes don't use leicas?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, B.D.
>> I earned the money for my first 35mm camera by
> cleaning
>> the floors in stairwells of apartment buildings in
> Germany.
>> It never crossed my "poor dim-witted"  mind to steal  to
> get
>> the camera.
>> I was not a wealthy ex-pat; my father was a non-com in
>> the Air Force during the Cold War in the early 60's.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> SonC
>> http://www.sonc.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 9:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] lower classes don't use leicas?
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mxsmanic wrote:
>>> 
>>> The type of people who work cleaning toilets and/or
>>>> steal the property of others tend to be poor and
>> dim-witted,
>>> 
>>> Yes, people who work cleaning toilets and who out of
>> desperation steal
>>> the property of others tend to be poor, but to suggest
>> that they are
>>> dim-witted because they are poor or clean toilets is a
>> truly repulsive,
>>> vile, classist thing to say that tells us a great deal
>> about you.
>>> 
>>> There are plenty of people on this list who at one time
> or
>> another
>>> worked at jobs that were the equivalent of cleaning
>> toilets, or had
>>> parents or grandparents who did.
>>> 
>>> Just who the hell do you think you are, Anthony, to make
>> this kind of
>>> statement. Boy, was Kyle on the mark when he pointed out
>> that there are
>>> people who think that they are somehow "special" because
>> they own
>>> Leicas.
>>> 
>>> B. D.
>>> 
>> 
>