Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/11/29

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Subject: Re: [Leica] color noctilux autumn images
From: "Dragi Anevski" <dragia@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:55:48

B.D.

It does not make me dizzy. On the contrary I think that this lens seems to 
help a lot when composing:
1. On all pictures, the out of focus areas are blurred and you don't mind 
e.g. the red parts in the first picture "Ted picking...". Stopping down 
would take that effect away. So this could be very useful for certain 
pictures. And you do see the background, only that you're drawn to the in 
focus area.
2. The darker corners makes you concentrate on the middle, which can be very 
effective, as in Rei's pictures. It's not an uncommon technique to burn the 
edges, although not everyone would like it to show as much as in these 
pictures.
3. "Cut out and inserted..." That's things you do in photoshop, and I doubt 
it would look this good then. At least I've never seen photoshop pictures 
looking like this.

I can imagine that if you only got this kind of pictures, you might get 
tired of it eventually. But I've never seen pictures with the Noctilux wide 
open, and I was blown away by these. The blurring makes you see the 
composition more clearly, it becomes more lines and areas. But that depends 
on whether you want that or not. Also one could very well compose the 
pictures so that the effect doesn't become as strong if its too much for 
ones taste, for instance in the picture on Ted (?) alone by the fence, you 
could change the composition to have a different angle between the lens and 
the fence.

I think the pictures look fantastic.

:-)
Dragi


>From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] color noctilux autumn images
>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:04:42 -0500
>
>I'm going to stick my neck out really, really far, here - (and then run
>off to teach tonight's class, saving me until tomorrow from the flames ;-) 
>)
>
>I don't think that there is any question that Rei is one of the better
>photographers on the LUG, but that lens is a pig.
>
>
>I can see using a Noctilux, with all its glaringly obvious faults, when
>it is the only piece of glass with which one can capture a particular
>image worth capturing. Which generally means something happening in
>virtually no light.
>
>But when used to take this kind of photo, it produces images that can
>literally make a viewer slightly dizzy and nauseaus. As I look at the
>upper several images, I'm not sure whether a lens element is out of
>wack, or vasoline has been smeared across part of the lens. And as I
>look at the bottom image, I get the feeling that a sharp photo of a
>child has been cut out and inserted into a blurry forground and
>background image.
>
>
>Again, I'm not talking about the photography as such - these photos, if
>taken with, say, a Summilux 75 opened up, would have been lovely. But
>this lens, under these circumstances, is an image killer.
>
>Sorry.
>
>B. D.
>
>Mike Gil wrote:
>
>>Rei,
>>
>>Great pictures.  I like the one where your daughter is
>>laying on the leaves.  The swirling effect created by
>>the Noct makes the picture even better, than it
>>already is.  First time I've seen this effect I need
>>to point my Noct down more offen.  I think if Smith
>>had a Noct, he would of spent much less time in the
>>darkroom.  The darkroom effects created by the Noct
>>seem so natural to the eye.  The burnt in corners
>>created by the Noct draws you into the subject.
>>
>>mike gil
>>--- Rei Shinozuka <shino@ubspainewebber.com> wrote:
>>
>>>this is my final set in my latest round of scanning!
>>>
>>>i was motivated by the beautiful autumn we enjoyed
>>>this year.
>>>so here my first color images with the noctilux, 75
>>>lux, etc.
>>>fuji reala.
>>>
>>>http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux1/
>>>(3 pages)
>>>
>>>my personal favorites are the second page.
>>>
>>>link to those pages and all my stuff:
>>>http://www.shinozuka-family.com
>>>
>>>-rei
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