Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/01/25

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Alfie's January 26th PAW...BD
From: Steve Rowell <steverowell@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:07:03 -0800 (PST)

My God! Did I miss something in B.D's post? Sounded like good advice to me.

Steve Rowell

- --- lea <lea@whinydogpress.com> wrote:
> <<Alfie, you have to give much, much more thought to what you shoot - at
> least
> you do if you are planning to post the images>>
> 
> If I have any complaints about the PAW it is summed up in this extraction
> from B.D.'s post to Alfie regarding his post for the week.
> 
> First of all, Alfie can post whatever the hell he wants. And who is B.D. to
> say Alfie didn't give a heck of a lot of thought to this image even before
> he posted it? Who made B.D. the judge-god-almighty of what should and
> shouldn't get posted to a PAW?
> 
> B.D. goes further in his mean-spirited (I can't help but think he thought it
> might be interpreted as mean spirited since he writes << I don't want to be
> mean - honest - >>) letter to say Alfie is shooting like a child with
> his/her first camera in that Alfie is shooting everything in sight. So the
> hell what????? How do you think a person is supposed to learn? I'm more than
> certain that HCB, Eugene Atget, Walker Evans and all the others didn't start
> out shooting masterpieces when they first pulled their cameras out of the
> box. Photography is art and becoming good at it takes time...and practice.
> Why in the world would a fellow photographer begrudge another the right to
> shoot (and POST) whatever in the world he/she wants.
> 
> I am appalled.
> Lea
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Alfie's January 26th PAW
> 
> 
> : But shoot what?
> :
> : Alfie, you have to give much, much more thought to what you shoot - at
> least
> : you do if you are planning to post the images. Try to remember that just
> : because something looks somehow interesting to you when you see it, does
> not
> : mean it will necessarily translate into a photograph that is worth having
> : taken.
> :
> : I understand that you are new to this, and I don't want to be mean -
> : honest - but what you are doing is what kids often do when they get their
> : first camera - shoot everything they see thinking that the fact that what
> : they see is captured on film will make it a good photograph. Look at the
> : image you posted this week and ask yourself 'what is interesting about
> this
> : and why would anyone want to look at it?' Are there striking patterns of
> : some sort? Not to my eye. Is there something particularly unusual about
> : either house? Not really. Is there something worth capturing in the yard?
> : Not that's in the photo.
> :
> : Keep shooting, but THINK before you shoot. Think about why you are taking
> : the particular photo, and think about what it will look like when it is
> : printed.
> :
> : B. D.
> :
> : -----Original Message-----
> : From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> : [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of John Straus
> : Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:36 PM
> : To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> : Subject: Re: [Leica] Alfie's January 26th PAW
> :
> :
> : on 1/22/02 7:08 PM, Albert Wang at leica_phile@hotmail.com wrote:
> :
> : > This week my PAW is at:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=468422
> :
> : This one doesn't say anything to me. I think you needed to go down the
> : stairs into the yard and shoot :)
> : --
> : John
> : Chicago, IL
> : http://SlideOne.com
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