Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/02/13

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Subject: RE: [Leica] The Decisive Moment or...sounds like another of those God Damn commie photographers is on some sort of socialist tear again!;-)
From: Mike Gil <dtt2150@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:20:30 -0800 (PST)

Colen

Whats wrong taking snaps of grandma with a black paint
M2 and a Noct.  Whats to say that the images produced
by other Leica users is of less worth than a Salgado
picture.  We pose the pictures just like he does.  Did
you forget he does that and that other photographers
pose pictures.  Remember Smith was not shy about
telling people that he did this.  There is alot of
talent on this list that is better than the current
liberal propaganda printed in popular magazines.

Our company has cut 20% of our people which translates
into 4000 lives.  They did nothing wrong but the
reality of the economy made it necessary so why not
should photographer be exempt.

mike gil


- --- "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Gee, Mike, I just thought everyone would like to
> know what the Leica God is
> up to these days. But, given that he is exhibiting
> his Commie socialist
> class-bashing predilections, I guess now he's just a
> befuddled old man,
> eh?;-)
> 
> Perhaps people, no, I take that back, perhaps
> working photographers, who
> need jobs and need decent reimbursement from the
> sale of their images, are
> bashing Corbis because Corbis is basically
> monopolizing the photo world and
> making it impossible for a lot of people to make a
> living because of the way
> it is squeezing the market.
> 
> But don't worry, it isn't having any effect on the
> neck jewelry collectors
> who use their $1500 Ms and $1700 Summilux's to take
> snaps of little Scooter
> and Ginny.
> 
> B. D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On
> Behalf Of Mike Gil
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 6:11 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Decisive Moment or...sounds
> like another of
> those God Damn commie photographers is on some sort
> of socialist tear
> again!;-)
> 
> 
> Why blame Corbis.  The economy sucks everywhere.
> There are alot of cut backs throught our economy. 
> Why
> should they be exempted.
> 
> mike
> 
> --- Feliciano di Giorgio <feli@d2.com> wrote:
> > Is Corbis owned by Microsoft?
> >
> > feli
> >
> >
> > "B. D. Colen" wrote:
> > >
> > > FYI - from the email summary of
> > > ------------------------------------------
> > > NEWS...
> > > ------------------------------------------
> > > Decisive support by Cartier-Bresson
> > >
> > > Henri Cartier-Bresson has issued a blistering
> > attack on one of the
> > > world's largest picture agencies in support of a
> > group of photographers
> > > taking strike action. The legendary French
> > photographer wrote a
> > > hand-written letter to the Corbis-Sygma
> employees
> > who are striking
> > > against the agency's decision to lay-off 42
> > photojournalists and issue
> > > new contractual arrangements. 'I am scandalised
> by
> > the casualness and
> > > the cruelty of the massive firing by Corbis of
> 42
> > Sygma photographers,'
> > > he writes. 'The compilation of an image bank, as
> > well stocked as it
> > > might be, will never match the work of an
> author.'
> > >
> > > Corbis took over Sygma - formed in France 30
> years
> > ago - in 1999. In the
> > > two years since the take-over, losses have
> > accelerated and photographers
> > > have been in perpetual dispute with their new
> > employees.
> > >
> > > (Read more in this week's printed issue of BJP)
> > >
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>
________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > When your head is full of dust and tofu it's easy
> to
> > smile all the time.
> > 							-Ethan Ormsby
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________
> >       		 Feli di Giorgio * Compositing Supervisor
> >         feli@d2.com * DIGITAL DOMAIN * (310)
> > 314-2800 ext.3074
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