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Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica CL 40mm Summicron on other M-mount cameras
From: "Jeffery Smith" <jsmith45@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:47:05 -0600

Ultimately, I would like to use the 40mm on a Bessa-T. Guess I need to
go out and shoot a roll wide open on it.

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of John
Collier
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:27 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica CL 40mm Summicron on other M-mount cameras


Hi Mark,

It is very simple to check. Mount lens, set it to infinity and point the
camera at something very far away. If it all lines up, great. If not, it
still may be within the DOF of the lens. Yes, I have seen a 40/2 mounted
on several M bodies and on one it lined up correctly at infinity but not
with the other two. The DOF of the 40/2 probably would have taken up the
slack. I guess it all depends on how fussy you are and how often you are
focused close and wide open.

Many people have said that Leica made it all up to keep people from
buying the cheaper 40/2. The lads in Germany may be too fussy for our
tastes but they are right about the differences in lens cam design.

As I said earlier, try it and see.

John Collier



> From: Mark Langer <mlanger@ccs.carleton.ca>
>
> Is this true according to your direct experience, or just from what 
> you've heard?  I'm asking you this because last weekend I had a 
> discussion with Reinhold Mueller on this very subject, and he answered

> unequivocally that the incompatibility of the 40mm Summicron with 
> other M cameras was just a myth.  I'm fond of the 40mm focal length 
> (I've got an Olympus 40mm f2.8 in LTM and just got a Rollei 35 SE) and

> have been considering buying the 40mm Summicron for a M6.
>
>> From: John Collier <jbcollier@powersurfr.com>
>>
>> 
>> The answer is: a CL lens may focus correctly on a M camera...or it 
>> may not. The CL uses a very steep lens cam and the horizontal 
>> position of the CL's rangefinder roller is critical. The M lens cam 
>> is not steep and horizontal position of the rangefinder roller is not

>> critical. In fact, on the M camera, the length of the rangefinder arm

>> (horizontal position) is adjustable to fine tune focusing accuracy. 
>> So it is not unusual to have the rangefinder roller in slightly 
>> different horizontal positions on different M cameras.
>> 
>> So the short story is that a CL lens may line up properly at infinity

>> on one M camera and may not on another. Try it and see.
>>

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