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Subject: Re: [Leica] Bad Ebay Experience
From: kiklaas@iinet.net.au
Date: 8 Mar 2002 03:07:25 -0000

I agree Hoe, integrity is everything - what goes around comes around and 
so I make sure I always do the right thing by everyone - found 
wallets/returned them - lost them had them returned...

In this case I was not asked for a specific amount to cover bank charges - 
I was just told that he did not want to be paying for them - so I paid for 
TT cahrges my side and added US$15 to cover receiving end.

It does not sit comfortably with me being at someone else's mercy so at 
least this was not the "most expensive" lesson learned.  My attaitude is I 
always wish success on those trying to earn a living - for that reason I 
am a littel reluctant to post bad review - so I thought I would warn you 
on this forum, the warning is just to alert you to making sure you are 
very specific if dealing with this chap....his vague instructions meant I 
paid out far more than I had anticipated.  

I am hoping the quality of the merchandise will offset the headache.

Karina




> I had a similar experience - with a LUG member .
> 
> I allowed him to wire the payment for a sale directly to my bank. 
Unbeknown
> to me, my bank charged me $35 to receive the transfer. I sent him the
> merchandise on his promise to remit the difference. I never heard from 
him
> again.
> Recently, again with a LUG member, it cost an extra $15 for a transfer 
but
> this time the buyer graciously offered to send me the difference. I 
declined
> based on the fact that honesty and integrity is more important to me than
> the money.
> 
> Therefore Karina, it is a matter of paying for the lesson. It costs 
money to
> wire money and the seller cannot absorb the cost.
> 
> Joe Codispoti
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kiklaas@iinet.net.au>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Bad Ebay Experience
> 
> 
> > I have just ordered a Leica M6 leather half case of Ebay from a chap
> > called Federico - (Leica3_Black I think is his trading name), he has 
rave
> > reviews about all his dealings and I can tell you I have had quite the
> > opposite experience - the auction said US$120 + US$10 for shipping,
> > no mention of bank charges.  He makes contact to arrange payment method
> > (I wired on the Monday following Sat's purchase) and he says he does 
not
> > want to pay bank charges - stupidly because I really want the case I 
wire
> > US$145, an extra US$15 to cover bank charges (keeping in mind fx rate 
is
> > not in my favour) - he emails back to say he has only received
> > US$117 (US125 - US$8 for bank charges) and to please send a further 
US$13
> > in cash in the mail - I ask him to use my Fedex shipping account, thus 
no
> > need for US$10 shipping charge - and so after much frustration - I was 
in
> > the situation that I either had to cut my losses - no case or pay 
whatever
> > amount I was being held to ransome for to secure shipping of the case 
- - I
> > did in fact send US$13 in cash in the mail - he tells me he has shipped
> > case, expect it to arrive (finger's X'd) but like you say - no room for
> > bad reviews - no more Ebay experience for me - when I pay a lot of 
money
> > for something I want a face in front of me to make a noise at when 
they do
> > not deliver...
> >
> > Be aware - folks, avoid this one.
> >
> > Karina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > The one thing I don't get with ebay is that they allow people to hide
> > their
> > > feedback and make it not publically viewable. I'd never buy from 
someone
> > > with a hidden feedback, but it's darned irritating when the beggars
> snipe
> > > auctions that you have running.
> > > They also allow non-registered bidders, which is quite beyond me. I 
had
> a
> > > bidder who one my auction, didn't make contact, ignored emails to his
> > > Hotmail account and I could look up his details because he was an
> > > unregistered bidder. I was seething by the time I'd beggared aound 
with
> > > that for days. To make things worse, you can't leave feedback for
> > > unregistered bidders, so I was unable to leave a comment to warn 
others.
> > > Kinda defeats the entire object of the ebay policy!! Could I do 
anything
> > > about it? Not a chance!! So effectively it's free forward for all 
those
> > guys
> > > to bid, not pay and continue doing so without consequence.
> > >
> > > Right, now I'm going to beat something with a large stick for a 
minute!!
> > > Back soon;-)
> > >
> > > -Duncan
> > >
> > >
> > > Finally, be very careful in selecting sellers from whom you will buy.
> > The TV
> > > show Good Morning America just this morning told of increasing 
consumer
> > > fraud on some of the auction sites, including eBay. They are not 
frauds
> > > committed by the auction companies; sellers cook up all kinds of 
things,
> > use
> > > different names to avoid the bad feedback that the auction sites use 
to
> > > warn people of unreliable or dishonest sellers and buyers.
> > >
> > > Seth      LaK 9
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