Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/03/26

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Subject: RE: [Leica] A Land Without Lawyers
From: "B. D. Colen" <>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:16:26 -0500

True Don - The Tobacco moguls whose drug pushing has been so beautifully
protected by legions of lawyers up until now; Enron skunks whose lawyers set
up their skunk works and told them how to make it all work for as long as it
did; and the folks at Arthur Anderson, who certainly have never lacked legal
legions. ;-) And all of them now being assaulted by lawyers.

How did this damn thread get going anyway?

B. D.

Retiring from this thread with apologies for having gotten sucked into's a slow rainy day..;-)

- -----Original Message-----
[]On Behalf Of Don
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] A Land Without Lawyers

It is wonderful that money and "keeping them honest" coincide so there
is fun and profit going after the crooks like the tobacco moguls, Enron
skunks, and the Anderson ghouls.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "B. D. Colen" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] A Land Without Lawyers

> No S#*T!! :-)
> So what you're really saying is that PR people are the saviors of the
> universe - and thanks very much, I'll accept the title! ;-)
> BTW - I am still giggling at the claim, posited a few posts back, that
> plaintiff's attorneys are suing corporations and various miscreants to
> them honest." While there are a handful of plaintiff's attorneys for
> "keep(ing) them honest" is their motivation, I would suggest that the
> prospect of making money is the motivating factor for the vast
majority of
> plaintiff's attorneys. Not that there's anything wrong with wanting to
> money - or succeeding at it.:-)
> B. D.
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> []On Behalf Of Austin
> Franklin
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 4:45 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [Leica] A Land Without Lawyers
> > ...and most of the important labor
> > legislation
> > came about because of the efforts of citizen reformers and crusading
> > journalists, NOT lawyers - who were the hired guns attempting to
> > block those
> > reforms.
> Damn, B.D., first it was lawyers that were the saviors of the world,
> it's the journalists!  Well, I think it's the female actors on
BayWatch that
> are the saviors of the world.  I guarantee you I can get far more done
> one of them by my side than if I had a lawyer or a journalist, or even
> citizen reformer there.
> Austin
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