Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/05/31

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: New Street Photos from Hanoi.
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:32:45 -0400

Fascinating, Marc, but I guess it all depends upon where one gets ones
history - or which historians one believes. The British historian Ian
Kershaw makes it quite clear in his stunning two volume biography of Hitler
that while many industrialists turned their noses up at the ill-mannered
ruffians who peopled the Nazi party in the pre-takeover days, they were, at
the same time, helping to finance the party.

No, I don't have page cites at hand - read the two volumes. I guarantee - in
all seriousness - you'll enjoy the read.

B. D.

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At 02:15 PM 5/31/02 -0500, Matthew Powell wrote:
>The other is that while Stalinist Communism and Nazism are both
>authoritarian and nationalist in nature, Nazism drew its support from
>the capitalists and industrialists of the mid-war period, because it
>strove to give them more power.

Not really, though your version IS the left-wing myth.  The Nazis had
almost no support from German capital until after they had achieved power.
(See, say, Toland or Shirer for the few examples to the contrary, such as
Fritz Thyssen).  The Nazis rode to power precisely as did the Soviets, by
building a coalition of middle-class and agrarian classess with a
substantial number of industrial workers thrown in for good measure.

And, of course, both movements share the same roots, in Hegelian
dialecticalism.  Reading Marxist and Nazi doctrine is interesting only in
that it is indistinguishable -- both share not just incredible
trivialization, logical lacunae, and REALLY boring styles but, in the end,
they share their philosophies.  The only difference is in the terminology
- -- the doctrines are identical.

Marc

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