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Subject: RE: [Leica] 35mm Summilux-M
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:28:44 -0400

I don't know what Rei says, Mark, but I really think you're off on this one.
Yes, everything you say about minute shifts in subject/photographer/light
effecting flare is absolutely dead on. But I'd wager that you would not find
a pair of images where there was more contrast, sharpness, and flare in the
image produced by the old 35 Summilux than there is in the image captured by
the 35 ASPH. I say this noting that I have yet to find a frame shot with the
new version which has not been contrasty, flare-free, and sharp...well,
okay, some haven't been sharp because either the subject moved or I couldn't
hold the camera steady enough. But this is simply a case of one lens being
vastly superior to the other if what you consider superior is having
increased contrast, flare resistance, and sharpness.

B. D.

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Mark
Rabiner
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:40 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] 35mm Summilux-M


Peter Klein wrote:
>
> "Rei Shinozuka" <shino@panix.com> posted a comparison of the classic and
> ASPH 35mm Summiluxes:
>
> >  http://www.shinozuka-family.com/35summiluxen/
>
> This is great, Rei.  Thanks for posting it.  The only thing better would
> be an "available darkness" shot taken with both lenses.
>

The little boy's face at the bottom left seems to be jerking faster to
the right into the windows more then he is on the right jerking a bit
slower in the other direction. That's what I'm seeing.

Also the shot on the left of the little boys face he is facing into the
windows more and that is why the face and head is so much lighter.

But when you also have softer; from faster subject movement you've got
the difference in look between a modern lens and a totally uncoated one.
Which of course is more than the actual reality of the test.

Also this is an intensely high flare situation.
A shifting of the weight of the photographer; his breathing or a
subjects subtle move can influence the flare going into the lens shot by
shot.

I bet if you shot a whole role in this setup from each lens you could
easily find a pair in which a darker sharper face was done by the older
glass and a lighter washed out softer face was done with the modern lens.
That's how I see it.

What does Rei say?


Mark Rabiner
Portland, Oregon USA
http://www.markrabiner.com
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