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Subject: Re: [Leica] Ilford films garbage? (was: Deardorff)
From: Mark Rabiner <mark@markrabiner.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 23:00:27 -0700
References: <LNBBLBNFHNEHGFKFMALGGEBJCFAB.tim@KairosPhoto.com>

Tim Atherton wrote:
> 
> Oh C'mon Slobadon,
> 
> Ilford are a world class film maker who has been at the business for over
> 100 years.
> 
> FP4 and HP5 are staple films - in the UK much more so than Kodak Tri-X say.
> 
> Along with their Delta films, they are easily up to the technical standard
> of Kodak. (and many would say better than). They also have a greater
> commitment to LF film.
> 
> There is no comparison with the likes of Efke in terms of production.
> 
> I know many photographers who use them as their first line films (especially
> LF photographers - but also 35) who produce excellent work.
> 
> I really don't think in this case it's possible to blame the tools?
> 
> There are folks who don't like the films, but as a matter of personal taste,
> not because they are crap.
> 
> tim
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of S Dimitrov
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:02 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Deardorff
> >
> >
> > Years, and years ago, I interviewed for a job with them. The job was
> > attending a machine in total darkness that would cut film into 36
> > exposure lengths . The strips would then go through a hole puncher for
> > the sprocket holes. The sheet film was also cut from larger 'industrial'
> > sized sheets. Needless to say I got a better offer before they
> > called back.
> > I have to admit, I consider Ilford, Efke, and the usual managery of like
> > films as not even last resort material. I tested some films for Ilford,
> > and frankly, halfway through I send them back the remainder of the
> > stock. I just couldn't stomach the results.><Snip> 

That's OK Tim! I wasn't the Film, it wasn't the Nikon glass, it was a
dirty third party UV filter which messed everything up for Slobadon
those days!

Mark Rabiner
Portland, Oregon USA
http://www.markrabiner.com
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