Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/08/29

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Graham's landscapes
From: John Collier <jbcollier@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:29:55 -0600

Actually I side with Rob on this one.

All the images I have seen are what I would consider bland in that we 
have seen them a thousand times before. I know my rule of thirds and can 
readily apply the Golden Mean. This, however, does not make my photos 
interesting. I may well be showered with admiration from the snap shot 
crowd but, as they have trouble with focus and exposure, their standards 
are not high. I think the pictures are fine but bland; all well and 
truly done in the 40s, 50's and 60s.

Is there anything wrong with this?

Absolutely not, if Graham is happy, enjoying himself and learning more, 
then that is just fine by me. The good lord knows I think ill of my own 
photography. That is why I am largely silent on photo criticism but, in 
this case, Rob, a photographer and writer I do find very interesting, is 
getting hammered for telling it like it is. If you like this kind of 
photography, great, but do not pretend that it is cutting edge or even 
vaguely current. It is what it is: coverage of well trodden ground. Very 
few of us will break new ground or stretch the medium in any small or 
significant way.

When I discovered I was not going to be the next (fill in your favourite 
photographer*), I got over it and carried on doing what I enjoy. When 
someone tells me my pictures are bland, I agree with them!

John Collier

* Clark, HCB, Gibson, Salgado, Goldin, Horenstein, etc

On Thursday, August 29, 2002, at 03:45 AM, Rob Appleby wrote:

> My point was simply that there is a lack of intentionality in these 
> images,
> to my eye. I wasn't advocating using tricks, but simply indicating that
> there are various ways of signifying intentionality (including weather 
> and
> light) and - as I said - clichéd tricks. Anyway, the consensus is 
> against me

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