Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/09/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]He unsubscribed soon after this event. At 05:54 PM 9/27/2002 -0700, you wrote: >B.D. > >You seem to be the frequent instigator of the stressful attacks that come on >this user group. > >I sure wish you would behave yourself or find another venue. > >Our list master in musing about closing the list which would be a major loss >to many of us that are here to learn about photography and not rude >behavior. > >I am on the list for what I can learn and not for your poor behavior. > >Roland Smith >Oakland, California >----- Original Message ----- >From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> >Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:03 AM >Subject: RE: [Leica] Downloadable Erwin Puts Book - OFF-LIST > > > > This is a private communication Rob, because I do not care to get into a > > public pissing match with you, nor, for that matter, to I want this to be >a > > pissing match of any kind. > > > > But let me ask you two questions: > > > > 1. Do you really think that Erwin Puts GAVE Leica that PDF to publish? >That > > he did not receive any kind of compensation for allowing a corporation to > > benefit from all that work? > > > > 2. Suppose I published my photo work on diabetics, and didn't acknowledge > > the fact that it was commissioned and paid for by a drug company? Wouldn't > > that be gross conflict of interest, and ethical violation? Of course it > > would, because people judging the work would have no way to know if it > > presented an honest picture of the lives of diabetics, or produced a >picture > > the pharmaceutical company wanted shown. > > > > Well, when Erwin Puts claims to be an independent expert when he reviews > > Leica products, but does work of any kind for Leica, he is misleading the > > people who make buying decisions on the basis of what they believe to be > > independent evaluations. I know that you understand that. > > > > By the way - how about we try to keep our political disagreements out of >our > > on-list exchanges. Because you and I know full-well that your repeated > > disagreements with me on-list began AFTER you learned during our off-list > > exchange that we disagree about the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. > > > > B. D. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Rob Appleby > > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:35 PM > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Downloadable Erwin Puts Book > > > > > > As far as I can see, he isn't taking anything from Leica, he's given them > > the pdf to publish. Good for him. Where's the problem? > > > > This really is one of your idées fixes, BD. > > > > -- Rob > > > > http://www.robertappleby.com > > Mobile: (+39) 348 336 7990 > > Home: (+39) 059 303436 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:19 PM > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Downloadable Erwin Puts Book > > > > > > > Steve - and all the others of you who I know will instantly leap to > > Erwin's > > > "defense:" > > > > > > There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Erwin's acting as a consultant to > > > Leica or any other company. More power to him. > > > > > > But I seem to recall that Mr. Puts went to great lengths to proclaim his > > > independence from Leica. This is the guy who said he never took ANYTHING > > > from Leica. > > > > > > If you don't see a conflict here, Steve, I sure feel sorry for the > > > subscribers to your publications. > > > > > > And by the way, "slut?" If I whore for anyone Steve, I'll be the first >to > > > tell my readers I'm getting paid for what I do. > > > > > > B. D. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html