Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/10/26

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Kodak Royal Gold 100 - Now cropping ... How did we get here from there ?
From: "Phong" <phong@doan-ltd.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 03:13:58 -0400

Hi Rob,

I usually work with the flow whenever possible; it's easier that way,
but in this case must agree with you.
I just need to stock up some 8x12 mats.
And thanks for the tips with the workarounds.

Best regards,

- - Phong

> -----Original Message-----
> Rob Heyman wrote, re: http://www.mindspring.com/~phongdoan/Baohan/
>
> Phong,
> 
> Love the photo. Please don't crop it.
> 
> One question. Why do you need to print a 10x8? Why print a negative of 3:2
> proportions onto 5:4 proportion paper? You have gone to all that trouble to
> compose your image and then "the standard" says you should frame as a 10x8!
> 
> This is one of my pet hates. No frames in the 10inch area for 35mm proportions. I
> think there should be a standard size of 10x7 and this will accommodate the full
> frame 35mm. I realise that most commercial minilab printers do not print this
> size but I use three work-arounds.
> 
> 1.  Give them a digital file with an inch of white along the bottom to make 10x8.
> Then have mats cut  to enable you to frame in a 14x11 or theabouts. (Or go to 3.)
> 
> 2.  10x8 is just a hangover from the days of full plate cameras and everything
> was in the proportions of 5:4.  35mm is 3:2 proportions and there is a serious
> lack of frames made for this format. 6x4 is too small and 5x7 is close, but the
> 10x8 is a problem, so I print as a 10x7, which is just about full frame and then
> put a 1.5inch mat around it. The Fuji Frontier machine will print a 15x10, so I
> just add 2inches to one end for the printer and then cut off the excess.  It will
> then fit exactly into a standard 13x10inch frame. I would imagine that this size
> is also available in the US.
> 
> 3. Have a number of your favourite mouldings made into 10x7 frames.
> 
> That is the end of my rant for the week.
> 
> Rob

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