Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/10/28

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Subject: Re: [Leica] PAW -- Criticism or Stroking?
From: "Stuart Phillips" <stuart.phillips@rcn.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:33:48 -0500
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Stroking

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From: <Wariowilly@aol.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:59 PM
Subject: [Leica] PAW -- Criticism or Stroking?


> I'm new to posting, having been a "lurker" for quite awhile due to my fear
of
> weighing in on various issues and being torn apart (however well
intentioned)
> by far more knowledgeable members of LUG. But there seems to be a lack of,
> shall we say, intensity with respect to review and comment on PAWs. I'll
be
> blunt -- I've seen a large number of PAWs that are, at best, mediocre,
almost
> snapshots at a backyard barbeque that could have been taken with a $70
point
> and shoot camera. Yet, the comments for such works include things like
"great
> shot" or "wonderful image." Even allowing for differences in taste, the
> feedback on the PAWs seems remarkably consistent, and overwhelmingly
> positive. Sure, its nice to encourage folks, and it isn't easy to submit
> anything for public scrutiny, especially by the extremely talented and
> knowledgeable people who contribute to this group on a regular basis. I
> wouldn't submit my work because, quite frankly, I don't think it is yet at
a
> level where it should be shown, nay, inflicted on the general public, let
> alone the experts here.
>
> Don't get me wrong, lots of PAWs are amazing -- almost life
transforming --
> but others, well, its almost like "point a Leica at it and submit it."
Should
> we all bite our tongues at the latter sort and keep silent, or offer
> encouraging "strokes," or should we be honest (but always respectful) and
> honestly present constructive criticism? Again, I don't want to belittle
> those who have the courage and confidence to submit PAWs, but I need
> clarification -- are we here to review and critique in constructive
fashion,
> or simply to validate with hollow "attaboys"  yet another submission of
> someone's wife or daughter by the pool, or colorful locals sitting around
a
> cafe in some foreign locale? I don't want to offend anybody, I'm just
> wondering what the ground rules are.
>
> Many thanks to all for the wisdom the have provided, and continue to
provide
> on this site.
>
> Ellis Krane
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