Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/11/29

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Subject: RE: [Leica] D100 photos
From: "Phong" <phong@doan-ltd.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:28:33 -0500

> For a Leica, heavier IS better, as it dampens the
> camera for use with the very fast lenses that Leica offers.

I beg to differ.  I would love it if Leica can find a way or a
material to make the M equipment (bodies and lenses) lighter.  
I think the current equipment is a bit too heavy; not as bad 
as a SLR with a 80-200 f2.8 zoom of course, but it would be 
nice to carry a couple of M bodies with 4 or 5 of the fast lenses 
all day and not feel the weight. Too light of course is also bad.  

How much does the dampening help anyway ?

- - Phong


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Austin
> Franklin
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 9:02 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] D100 photos
> 
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> > There are similarities to the pure Leica question.
> > Traditional materials and craftsmanship vs. new high
> > tech materials and manufacturing techniques.
> 
> I don't associate "vintage steel bikes" with "traditional materials and
> craftsmanship".  Material and craftsmanship are two entirely different
> things.  A Leica is hardly "vintage steel".  I don't know how anyone can say
> that new bikes aren't made with the same craftsmanship old ones are...I'd
> even say new bikes are made with MORE craftsmanship than old bikes are, and
> you certainly can not say that about new cameras vs old cameras.
> 
> Leicas ARE made with higher craftsmanship, in my opinion, than most other
> cameras, and so are NEW bikes.  Old "vintage steel bikes" aren't really made
> with much "craftsmanship", at least the ones I've seen...they are made
> heavier duty, but that isn't craftsmanship.
> 
> As far as materials go, it's the proper material for the job.  For bikes,
> LIGHT weight is an issue.  For a Leica, heavier IS better, as it dampens the
> camera for use with the very fast lenses that Leica offers.  Is there
> anything wrong with the material used in the Leicas?  Not that I am aware
> of.  Is there anything wrong with the material in a "vintage steel bike"?
> Yes.  Steel isn't conducive to light weight.
> 
> Again, I still don't understand the comparison.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Austin
> 
> 
> > >
> > > > To give another example of Leica vs digital is a
> > > > cyclist who only rides vintage steel bikes, and
> > > would
> > > > never straddle a bike made of titanium, carbon
> > > fibre,
> > > > or any of the other exotic materials.
> > >
> > > Henry,
> > >
> > > I don't understand one bit how that is a comparable
> > > comparison.
> > >
> > > Austin
> 
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