Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/02/12

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Does this mean we can't talk about Leicas?????
From: Jim Hemenway <Jim@hemenway.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:41:24 -0500
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Lawnorder?
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Jim - http://www.hemenway.com



Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
> 
> I think we should have a homeland security home guard, with properly
> appointed uniforms. Kinda like the Greens in Germany.  Ouch, damn that
> knee jerk!
> We could have block captains, monthly meetings, those kinds of things.
> We have the infrastructure in place like home owners associations,
> fraternal orders, AARP, you name it could be retooled. The D.A.R.E.
> program could be expanded to oversight on the neighbors, not just one's family.
> Ach du liebe! One can only dream for the return of order!
> Slobodan Dimitrov
> 
> bdcolen wrote:
> >
> > THIS is REAL - and it should scare the s*%t out of every American -
> > liberal, conservative, libertarian or vegetarian - who has the least
> > interest in seeing the things America stands for preserved and
> > protected. If THIS is enacted, al-Quaida will have won:
> > http://www.public-i.org/dtaweb/report.asp?ReportID=502&L1=10&L2=10&L3=
> >
> > B. D.
> >
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Kit
> > McChesney | acmefoto
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:21 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Does this mean we can't talk about Leicas?????
> >
> > Oh, we know THIS one isn't real, Jim, but the OTHER one, surely is (from
> > the Center for Public Integrity!). Unfortunately, it's an
> > all-too-real-sounding parody (of course, that is the nature of parody!).
> >
> > Take a look at the following, the report on Homeland Security:
> >
> > www.public-i.org
> >
> > KM
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Jim
> > Hemenway
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:48 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Does this mean we can't talk about Leicas?????
> >
> > Folks this isn't real
> >
> > The server address, www.homelandsecurity.gov@subj.com, makes you think
> > that it's an official government address, but it's not.  In fact, the
> > www.homelandsecurity.gov section is actually interpreted as a username
> > at the server subj.com.
> >
> > Go to the url:
> >
> > http://www.homelandsecurity.gov@subj.com/dhs/
> >
> > Look at the sidebars about F16s for schools program and NSA secret
> > hideout
> >
> > Jim - http://www.hemenway.com
> >
> > Kelly wrote:
> > >
> > >  Department of Homeland Security
> > > "For a Safe and Secure NationT"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Clampdown on Internet Subversives
> > > - President says "we must stop this evil spread of ideas"
> > >
> > >  Washington 2/5/03
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a far reaching announcement today, President Bush announced that an
> >
> > > imminent clampdown into the dissemination of subversive and dangerous
> > > ideas via the Internet.
> > >
> > > Announcing this new initiative alongside director Tom Ridge, the
> > > president said: "We must stop this evil spread of ideas. Far too many
> > > people are being exposed to thoughts and concepts that challenge those
> >
> > > things this administration stands for. The Internet is clearly an
> > > example of outmoded liberal ideas gone badly out of control."
> > >
> > > Director Ridge added: "It is unfair for the federal government to pass
> >
> > > the burden of this onto tax-payers and citizens. Instead, we are
> > > proposing that the cost be shared between web site publishers and
> > > those minority of the population who visit such things. Screening this
> >
> > > information is expensive and those costs must be passed on."
> > >
> > > The proposed charges will be in the region of $100 per web page to be
> > > analysed for content and 10 cents per page viewed by visitors, this
> > > charge will go towards an upgrade to the Carnivore systems already in
> > > place. Sites belonging to government agencies are exempt, as are sites
> >
> > > belong to Fortune 500 companies - Director Ridge said "We can trust
> > > major corporations to always act in the interests of the United
> > > States, so we do not propose to screen their content. However, in the
> > > current climate of terrorist threats we must consider everyone else to
> >
> > > be a potential subversive".
> > >
> > > Charges will be levied after 31st March 2003. For any queries or
> > > comments, please contact our press office.
> > >
> > > This article is http://www.homelandsecurity.gov@subj.com/dhs/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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In reply to: Message from "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> (RE: [Leica] Does this mean we can't talk about Leicas?????)
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