Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/02/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Nathan-- Hey, friend, I have no quarrel with you. If you find that someone is presenting something in a format that you don't want to access, or don't have the software to see, then fine. No problem. That's your choice. What I think is silly is for someone to make that choice, and then blame the person who uses that tool for making it "difficult" for him to view the material. Not so different from the guy who refuses to get rid of his 8-track tape player, and then gets mad because no one is making 8-track tapes anymore! (Remember those? Lovely piece of technology, that.) Though I can't speak for Marko, I assume that he was probably not advocating Bill Gates, Inc., software, over and above anyone else's. As many pointed out, there are many browsers (Mozilla, Opera, Netscape) that were working just fine. Marko probably uses IE and that's why he said, "it works on IE." Whether we like it or not, much software is being designed to be compatible with IE, and that's just a fact. I'm not talking about you, but I find it irritating to see people transferring their distaste for a particular software (and Flash is not from Bill Gates, but from Macromedia) over to another person who is simply using the tool to present a message, or those who insist on making everyone else in the world adapt to their particular narrowminded view of "the right way things should be done" so that they don't have to expand their horizons one whit. One would think that a list of this type would foster openmindedness about many things. After all, looking at others' work is a mind-expanding (and one hopes, heart-expanding) activity in and of itself. I just can't stand mean-spiritedness, no matter the source. It's such a waste of what could be very positive energy. We surely do need more of it these days, heaven only knows. Cheers! Kit - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Nathan Wajsman Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 11:30 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] Lets try again My Photography Website Kit, I have not even tried to visit Marko's site--if people who are on broadband complain about slow loading, then I am not going to bother with my ISDN connection. More importantly, I saw that he replied to someone who complained about viewing difficulties that he or she should install IE6. I think it is extremely presumtiuous of someone to suggest that people should change to a browser they do not like just to look at his pictures. Likewise, I will accept cookies and the need for annoying plugins from sites that provide me with a service I need (such as home banking) but I absolutely refuse to accept any of those things to look at a photo site. In all modesty, take a look at my site: no flash, no Javascript as far as I can tell, just text and pictures. I want to make it easy for people to look at my pictures, because I want lots of viewers and lots of feedback. You can view my site regardless of which browser you have, even if it is something ancient like Netscape 4.5; and even if you connect via modem, the download times will remain tolerable. I have noticed that all the good e-commerce sites also behave this way--because they want to make it EASY for people to buy from them. That should be an equally useful principle for all us budding artists here. Nathan Kit McChesney | acmefoto wrote: > Poor Marko. He's got a great site. Why can't anyone see it? I can! Thank > you, Marko! Your work is great! > > Folks, if you'd just download a Flash player, you could view Marko's site. > Everyone uses Flash these days. It won't bite you, won't hurt your machine, > won't expose you to a virus, or anything. It will, however, allow you to > view some absolutely marvelous online content, and allow you to see a really > top-notch Web site (Marko's) with some great photographs. You can also > enable your browser to view with frames, too. > > Maybe it's a bandwith problem. The images are large, but still ... > > Accepting cookies, viewing with frames, and using Flash to see a Web site is > de rigeur these days, and is not going to mark you as a Communist, a > Liberal, or even as an Anarchist. Refusing to do these things will, I > venture to say, mark you as retrograde, in the world of the Internet (not to > mention keeping you from having a blast online! ;-) > > Kit > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > - -- Nathan Wajsman Herrliberg (ZH), Switzerland e-mail: wajsman@webshuttle.ch mobile: +41 78 732 1430 Photo-A-Week: http://www.wajsman.com/indexpaw2003.htm General photo site: http://www.wajsman.com/index.htm - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html