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Subject: RE: [Leica] Pictures and Privacy/Film Industry/Susan Sontag, too!
From: "Kit McChesney | acmefoto" <kitmc@acmefoto.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:04:59 -0700

Well, maybe you don't like Susan Sontag, but the message that she's trying
to bring out isn't insipid. Gosh, you're on a mean edge today, Slobodan!
What's with that? ;-)

Kit

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Slobodan
Dimitrov
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:25 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Pictures and Privacy/Film Industry/Susan Sontag,
too!


I don't doubt that there are many fine people in the entertainment
industry. Here, we're talking still photographers, a duck of a different
color.
The money is fair, it's not great. But it does attract the usual
individuals that will do work for hire.
As far as Susan Sontag's insipid savantry is concerned, no comment.
Well, maybe...then again, better not!
Slobodan Dimitrov


Kit McChesney | acmefoto wrote:
>
> There are many very good people who work in the film industry, folks who
do
> superb work, have sound ethical principles, and are incredibly creative.
> Perhaps it would be wise to separate the hype from the substance before
> condemning everyone involved. I have many good friends who work behind the
> camera, and they are great people. It is also a fact that industries that
> make lotsa money attract all types, but that doesn't diminish the
character
> of the good folks.
>
> As for the copyright laws in France, their rules may have a cultural
basis,
> that is, the French tend to be very private people. Their laws may have
> evolved from that particular cultural difference--one that Americans
aren't
> too familiar with, given the commercially-driven bent in this land for
> revealing everything, regardless of anything. Could be a privacy
> thing--respecting folks' right not to have their images captured without
> permission.
>
> On another note, did anyone hear Susan Sontag on the radio (I think it was
> the Radio 360 program on Sunday on public radio) speaking about the
> differences between how we photograph subjects in the West as opposed to
> "non-Western" subjects? For instance, we have no qualms about
photographing
> people who are starving (as in Africa) and near-death, but at the same
time,
> people debate if it is "tasteful" to photograph something as horrifying
from
> a disaster like 9/11. Somehow, we are able to see the Other as a subject,
> but to photograph something with equally horrifying details at home is
> taboo. Interesting.
>
> Kit
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Slobodan
> Dimitrov
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:58 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] A chance to compare yourself to Magnum
>
> Hardly ill-considered. Living in 'the' media town of the world, outside
> of Bollywood and New York, I've seen too many horror stories to feel, or
> think, otherwise.
> My brushes with 'the industry' keep on re-affirming my perception.
> Besides, I do not do 'work for hire'.
> Slobodan Dimitrov
>
> "Beddoe, Neil" wrote:
> >
> > Your  statement reminds me of one I read on a web site once that said,
> > "anyone who complains about the colour [of Fuji print film] should be
> shot".
> > I thought that was a little drastic and ill-considered.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Slobodan Dimitrov [mailto:sld@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: 19 February 2003 15:05
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] A chance to compare yourself to Magnum
> >
> > Sounds like they took their cue from the movie and recording industries.
> > A scum clientele that no photographer with any kind of self respect
> > should ever work for.
> > Slobodan Dimitrov
> >
> > Simon Greenwood wrote:
> > >
> > > The French have copyrite laws that are rather different to ours, the
> owner
> > > of the copyrite (as I understand it) is by default the subject of a
> > > photograph, unless agreement is made to transfer it to the
Photographer.
> > >
> > > Maybe someone could confirm this
> > >
> > > Simon Greenwood
> > >
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