Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/03/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Now Martin that is the absolute nicest way I've ever seen Mark react to these kind of posts. I hope you take his points to heart. Daniel On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Mark Rabiner wrote: > Martin Krieger wrote: > > > > I have not been a regular reader of the LUG of late. So when I come back > > and there is so much bile and personal attack, I find it diverting from what > > I value most about this group. Discussions of photography, of Leica > > equipment and how to use it (or collect it), exhibits, dealers, and the > > Friday FS. > > If there is a new piece of equipment, like the MP, I want to hear from > > users. I don't worry about getting biased views if there are many posted. > > For example, I eventually got a PC 28 mm lens, and discovered how wonderful > > it is for my kind of photography. I might have gotten it two-years earlier > > if there were more discussion of the equipment and its use. Or, I really > > want to know about how a lens performs at the corners. For my kind of > > photography, which in effect values allover the negative, the relevant > > details being everywhere, that is vital. I am willing to give up a little in > > the center for much better corners. This is the kind of observation that > > only experienced users will discuss--and the LUG is wonderful for that. > > So keep up the technical and practical and aesthetic. I know there is a > > tradition of ad hominem on this group, but there is also a tradition of ad > > photographem and I value that. > > > > Martin Krieger > > > > See Martin if you were a participator instead of a lurker you could say > "how does this lens perform in the corners." > Instead of getting annoyed time after time that nobody else did. And > then criticize us for it. > Martin paradoxically we get posts like these. People want us to upgrade > the level of posts which go on on the list. They want us more on topic. > Usually nice people like yourself who we've never heard of before. > Might you have some ideas on topics we could discuss right now which > would be of your liking? > A short list of cool treads (topics) would be a boom to the list. > > See that is the point isn't it it's all be said we just keep thinking of > ways to re say it differently. Unless something obvious comes about to > discuss like a new piece of equipment. > Will there ever be more then two people on this list who own the PC 28 > mm lens and are not lurkers and are up to discussing it? > How many of us non lurkers will get the MD? (I "m really thinking about it) > > As none of us on the list have tried the MD yet that would stop all > discussion of it according to your criteria. > I think we can look at the specs and compare test reports. And wish. > And discuss the whole unfamiliar to many mindset of shooting without a > meter in the camera. Which i find fascinating. > How so many people think its the meter which takes the pictures. The > battery takes the pictures (a little closer). > > I'm afraid I have to say that when we get posts like this I wonder, "Do > these people think were are here discussing these things for their > enjoyment or otherwise edification?" We are here involved in discussions > which involve US in a natural progression. > The best way to alter the course or tone of a discussion would be to > become involved in it. > > > Mark Rabiner > Portland, Oregon USA > http://www.rabinergroup.com > Email: mark@rabinergroup.com > Fax: 503-221-0308 > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html