Re: [Leica] Comments on a BD Colen statement & PMA

[Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>]

BD

You should also have told him that "mass production"
and the assembly line process, is supposed to LOWER
the price, not double it!

And yes Sal and Steve, I have used the Leicavit, the MP
and Tom's device.  Tom Abrahamson's Winder is far
superior, and at a fair price.

Jerry

bdcolen wrote:

> Actually, Steve, there are several things you're missing here:
>
> 1. It is of no interest or concern to me that Leica has more overhead
> than Tom Abrahamson has. What is of interest to me is the quality and
> price of the products they produce. If Tom can produce a product equal
> or superior in performance to that produced by Leica, why would anyone
> consider buying a product that costs twice as much without offering
> twice the benefit?
>
> 2. I feel no obligation to support the survival of Leica as a company.
>
> 3. I have far less respect than the little you have publicly stated you
> have for me, but I don't feel the need to repeatedly lash out at you in
> public without any personal provocation. ;-)
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Steve
> LeHuray
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:53 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comments on a BD Colen statement & PMA
>
> B.D. Colen lashes out at Leica, again:
>
> > No hands on experience Sal - I'm basing it on the comparative number
> > of working parts, and the materials that Tom uses - and the utterly
> > ludicrous difference in price. I don't care if each unit is personally
>
> > autographed by Herr Cohen himself - at twice the price of a Tom A.
> > Rapidwinder that particular Leica offering is joke, and a rather sick
> > one at that. :-)
> >
>
> B.D., you seem to know so little about business.
>
> Leica has to pay for:
>
> Salaries for thousands of employees
> Health care for thousands of employees
> Factories to pay for and maintain
> R&D to pay for
> Advertising/marketing to pay for
> Has to produce hundreds (if not thousands) of units of product everyday
>
> Tom Abranshom has to pay for:
>
> 1, maybe 2 salaries
> Health care for 1, maybe 2
> A small rental unit in a industrial park
> No R&D to pay for
> No advertising/marketing to pay for
> Daily out put is maybe 1 unit per day
>
> Is there something I am missing here? Is there something you are missing
> here?
>
> sl
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > On Behalf Of Sal DiMarco,Jr.
> >
> >     BD, you wrote ..."with it's not-as-well-made at  twice-the-price
> > version of Tom A's Rapidwinder."
> >     My question is what hands on experience do you have with the new
> > Leicavit M or the previous Leicavit MP to make such a statement?
> >
> >     For those of you who have never been to a PMA, please understand
> > it is a selling show for DEALERS. PMA stands for Photo Marketing
> > Association. Unlike Photo East in New York which is aimed at
> > photographers. Happy Snaps, Sal
> >
> >
> > Sal DiMarco, Jr.
> > Philadelphia, PA
> > Web Site: http://members.fcc.net/sal.dimarcojr
> >
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