Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/04/17

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Subject: RE: [Leica] metereless
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:49:12 -0400

Unless you park it in another "Zone." :-)

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Kit
McChesney | acmefoto
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:36 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] metereless


Jerry--

So true. When I was in college, my photo professor, who was an absolute
tyrant, did teach us about light meters; he made everyone buy a Weston
Euromaster and a Kodak Gray Card. We had to carry that bloomin' gray
card with us everywhere we went, and he always made us meter off the
card. I remember he said, "whatever it is that you measure with that
meter will be middle gray in your picture." Most everything else he
tried to hammer into our heads I tried desperately to forget, but what a
light meter does wasn't one of them. I always remembered that whatever
you meter in the scene will be middle gray in your picture.

Kit

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Jerry
Lehrer
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:53 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] metereless


Steve

If you start willy nilly compensating for light or dark subjects, you
start to lose control.

Read about the Zone System, understand it, and use a spot meter.

Jerry

Steve Unsworth wrote:

> Jerry
>
> I don't think so. A reflective light meter averages everything to 
> approx
18%
> grey doesn't it? :-)
>
> An incident meter measures the light falling on an object and the 
> object itself 'controls' how much of that light is reflected back to 
> the photographer. Black objects reflect, well, not a lot so they 
> appear dark; white objects reflect more so they appear lighter.
>
> Of course I could be totally wrong (not for the first _or_ last time 
> ;-)
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry 
> Lehrer
> Sent: 17 April 2003 18:41
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] metereless
>
> Steve
>
> I have a feeling that you are confusing an incident light meter with a

> reflected light meter.
>
> Jerry
>
> Steve Unsworth wrote:
>
> > Don't think so, you're measuring the light that's falling onto an 
> > object, not the light reflected from it. A black object will appear 
> > black because it absorbs more of the light that's falling onto it 
> > than a white object.
> >
> > Steve
>
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