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Subject: Re: [Leica] HCB Did It All First
From: Patrick Jelliffe <pbjbike@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:24:24 -0700 (PDT)

Slobodan, 

The problem is that your opinion is DIFFERENT than the
accepted adulation of HCB, (Horrors!), and especially,
that you should articulate that opinion on this forum.
   The fact that the debate slid quickly into a
personal attack is most unfortunate, considering your
commentary was about HCB's WORK, not his person, nor
that of the original poster of the thread. 

Regards,

Patrick

- --- Slobodan Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Obviously I'm not shallow enough, as I don't
> _see_the underlying message
> that you claim is in the work. The flip side of this
> could be whether
> the work is that easily accessible that any one can
> tap into its
> brilliant message, and I'm just a lost blinded soul
> buffeted on a
> desolate tundra, ever locked in my unimaginative
> prison.
> If anything, his work strikes me as a well
> articulated snapshots. Last
> semester, I showed my students his book on photo
> portraiture. We flipped
> through the pages one at a time. Then, I flipped
> through the pages like
> one would through a carton flip book, to show the
> sameness throughout
> the work. I'm sure someone else would see it as a
> stylistic continuity,
> and I won't argue with that.
> But really Buzz, this physiological state of arousal
> of yours is
> somewhat unseemly, over what is just another guy's
> work earning a living
> with his camera. 
> Slobodan Dimitrov
> 
> 
> Buzz Hausner wrote:
> > 
> > Slobodan, your hubris is absolutely breathtaking. 
> I for one can say
> > that you have missed much in Cartier-Bresson's
> "presentation, style,
> > content, analysis, whatever..." or else I have to
> assume that your
> > ability to see is severely limited.  Another
> possibility is that you
> > enjoy taking stands which you know to be
> provocative, but it seems to be
> > in this case that deep down you are really very
> shallow.
> > 
> >         Buzz Hausner
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]
> On Behalf Of Slobodan
> > Dimitrov
> > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:16 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] HCB Did It All First
> > 
> > I wouldn't go so far that he originated the visual
> syntax for 35mm. I
> > think a little jaunt down history's memory lane
> could just show other
> > wise. I look at a lot of work, in the original as
> often as possible, and
> > no I can't say that I missed much in his
> presentation, style, content
> > analysis, what ever....
> > But then, this all rather subjective. For myself,
> I get considerably
> > more from being in the presence of the portraiture
> of the Roman Republic
> > than from HCB.
> > Slobodan Dimitrov
> > 
> > Buzz Hausner wrote:
> > >
> > > You have got to be joking, Slobodan!  What is in
> the work of H.C.-B.
> > is
> > > the origination of the entire vocabulary of 35mm
> photography!
> > > Definitely NOT a one trick pony and I have to
> think that anyone who
> > > views the body of H.C.-B.'s work as such is
> unable or unwilling to
> > look
> > > below the surface of what he sees!
> > >
> > >         Buzz
> > 
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Replies: Reply from Slobodan Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net> (Re: [Leica] HCB Did It All First)
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