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Subject: [Leica] RE: Re: No digital comments?
From: David Young <dnr@horizon.bc.ca>
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:08:47 -0700
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B.D.

It doesn't matter that we cannot tell the difference between Leica, Nikon, 
Canon or whatever photos - digi or film. Because of the limitations of the 
net, such distinctions are impossible.

That is not the point.  There are countless forums on the net for the 
discussion of all brands and all types of photography.  But this is the 
LEICA Users Group.  Not the Canon User's Group.  Nor the Fuji-digi Users 
Group; the Pentax Users Group or the Nikon Users Group.

Most folks are here because they use and enjoy Leicas.

If I wanted to see photos taken with a Canon, I'd join the Canon groups!

But, you need not take my word.  Simply read the message you got when you 
joined the list.  It's Brian's list, and he indicates he created it for the 
discussion of rangefinder photography, using cameras created by Leica and 
others, as well as other types of cameras made by Leica.  Hence the name.

I, and I think most members, would willingly extend that to include all 
manner of cameras with some Leica connection.  SonC's beautiful shots with 
his digi with Leica lens are OK. Tina's superb shots with her Canon 10d 
with Leica lens attached are also fine. Other makers cameras rebadged as 
Leicas are appropriate here, as well.

Nobody's knocking digital. Nobody's knocking point & shoots.  All manner of 
cameras and styles, as well as the photos produced by them, should be 
welcome here, provided they have a Leica connection.

But an image shot with a Nikon SLR, using a Nikon lens is not appropriate 
here, simply because the owner also owns a Leica of some type.  He should 
post his Leica images here and his Nikon images to a Nikon list.

You are right. Times are a'changin'.  But so is Leica.  We have all manner 
of products from them, including the coming digi-back for the R's.

If this list should wither and die, because we didn't discuss
other brands, then so be it.  There are, and will be, many there lists for 
those discussions.  I, for one, think this list will fare better, if it 
sticks to its roots.

Respectfully,

David Young.

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B.D. wrote:


>Of course, David, if people can’t tell the difference when they look at 
>the photos - and it's been made quite clear that they can't - then what's 
>the problem?
>
>Most of the discussion here still focuses (sorry :-) ) on Leicas and their 
>use. But the reality is that even the most fanatic Leicaholics - Take 
>Tina, for example - but don't take her away from us! - are recognizing 
>that the times they ARE a changin,' and for anyone for whom photography is 
>anything more than a hobby, its adapt or die.
>
>If this list were to be strictly limited to discussing Leicas - and if 
>people were limited to posting Leica images - I have little doubt the list 
>would wither and eventually die.
>
>B. D.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of David
>Young
>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:58 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: [Leica] Re: No digital comments?
>
>
>I agree with Karen.
>
>As set down by Brian, this is a forum to discuss rangefinder photography
>
>and cameras, made by Leica and others, and also other Leica equipment -
>be
>it 'R' cameras, or Leica made/branded digi cams.
>
>And I happily accept their Leica-lensed cousins, the 'Panshibas'.
>
>Since members began posting photos taken with Canon, Nikon, Oly and
>other
>fine cameras, this list has degenerated into a general photography
>list.  The traffic has gone up, but the signal to noise ratio has gone
>down.
>
>Please, all. This is a Leica list.  While your photos are often
>absolutely
>marvellous, if they weren't made with at least something Leica, they
>don't
>belong here.
>
>Thanks.
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>
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>Victoria, CANADA | fraternité et Beaujolais.
>
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David Young,     | égalité, liberté,
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