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Subject: RE: RE: [Leica] Was B.D's Ties to Olympus? Now What Full and Complete Disclosure??
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:20:29 -0400

Excuse me, Greg. What I have said repeatedly is that I think people have
an obligation to make clear any conflicts they have. I have NEVER stated
that anyone with such a conflict should refrain from talking about gear,
only that it should be revealed so that people can make their own
judgments. I have made clear my conflict regarding comments on Olympus
gear as soon as that conflict occurred. Draw your own conclusions about
the validity of my comments about the gear.

And as to my saying I don't pull any punches; I don't. I'm sure it's
been clear to other list members for some time that there is no love
lost between us, and it should also be clear to other list members that
your attack has absolutely no substance or credibility. Oh, while we're
at it - I think you're a twit and a bore, and I have no hesitation in
saying so. 

Have a good weekend.;-)

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of
gregj.lorenzo@shaw.ca
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:58 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: RE: [Leica] Was B.D's Ties to Olympus? Now What Full and
Complete Disclosure??


B.D Colen, apparently with a straight face writes in response to a
specific question from Don Dory:

"As I stated yesterday, I am one of a group of about photographers
who'sdigital work Olympus is supporting with equipment. I have a 
contractwith Olympus. So, as I said, judge what I say with that 
in mind - but keep in mind I have never been accused of pulling punches
about anything, and am not about to begin now."

and then goes on to write (in answer to my request that he specifically
refer me to his complete, total, unambiguous disclosure of commercial
affiliation post of Thursday, September 11, 2003 or any real recent
disclosure - i.e. PRIOR to his recent posts about this equipment):


"Check the archives Greg - I was totally up front about my new 
connectionwith Olympus. Given how I feel about conflicts of 
interest I would hardly try to hide any conflict of my own.
> 
> Best,
> 
> B. D."

I suspect "Best B.D." means that this lame, shameless response is the
best you could up with when asked why you don't hold yourself to the
exact same standard that you have continually DEMANDED of OTHERS on this
list! 

Well B.D., I did check the archives very carefully and it seems to me
that you owe Tina, Sal and a number of others who post to this list an
apology for some past hypocritical, overbearing, sanctimonious, boorish
behavior!!


Regards,


Greg

 


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