Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/09/25

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Subject: Re: [Leica] DigiBack Website updated, maybe the philosophal sensor for Leica-M lenses
From: Grégoire Vandenschrick <gregoire.vds@skynet.be>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:27:50 +0200
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you read it right, the CMOS WITH microlenses cannot handle the very wide
cone of light produce by wide aperture optics. This is due to the microlens
itself. Did you read all the description of the differnet technologies
purposed to achieve a high fill factor? this is not what is used by Fill
Factory. Maybe I miss the point here, but I don't plan to use the microlens
array, because of that, but rather well the N-Well technology, wich frees
the front of the CMOS form any microlens array, recovering so a more wide
cone of light. And if this cone is not wide enough, then add the
microfresnel array.

Actually, I took a cone of +20° around the optical axis for the N-Well CMOS.
This is based on what Kodak gives for the angular tolernace of their CCD
WITH microlens. So, I'm rather tight on this, I'm practically sure the Fill
Factory CMOS has in fact a more wide cone of light, but I took this to be
sure.

I would like to point something I forgot to tell. With such a cone of light
of 20° around the optical axis (20° on both side, so a total angle of 40°
ok?) even with the Microfresnel, one cannot achieve to gather all the light
coming from the Noctilux (which is in the center of 30° around the optical
axis, +60° on the total!). The Noctilux is in fact not a problem in the
corner, but rather well in the center! Now, if we take the risk to consider
that the Fill Factory N-Well CMOS has an angular tolerance of + - 30°, It is
compliant with the Noctilux. In the corner, it is easily achieved by the
microfresnel array.

Do I miss something about your comment? I'm not sure about what you mean
exactly.

Best

Greg
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From: "Douglas Herr" <telyt@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] DigiBack Website updated, maybe the philosophal sensor
for Leica-M lenses


> Gr?goire Vandenschrick <gregoire.vds@skynet.be> wrote:
>
> > the sensor compliant with the angles produced by Leica-M lenses could be
> > done with existing technical solutions, go and have a look:
> >
> > on the flapback page, follow the "high resolution CMOS with microfresnel
> > array" link, or go directly to
> >
> > http://users.skynet.be/fa420324/pages/CMOS.htm
>
> Quoting from the FillFactory description of the microlens CMOS chip:
>
> "not efficient with wide-aperture optics"
>
>
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
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