Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/10/20

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Is digital photography necrophilia?
From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:06:56 -0700
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BD 767

I don't have an "ink stained shirt"!  As a card-carrying Engineer,
I use a pocket protector.

Jerry

"B. D. Colen" wrote:

> ;-)
> But come on, Rolf, it is a list devoted to "Leica photography-" all
> though precious few members spend their time photographing Leicas - but
> photography is an important part of the purpose. Let's be honest
> here...if the only thing photographic discussed was Leica equipment and
> unique aspects of its use, this list would be down to two people in
> about a week. First off, there is virtually nothing about Leica
> equipment that hasn't been discussed here as extensively as Tilley hats
> - one doesn't need to spend time on the list to get equipment questions
> answered; all one has to do is go to the archives. And as to the
> "unique" aspects of photography with Leicas - such as? Come on - an EOS
> (film) Rebel is just as quiet as an M; there are other rangefinder
> cameras; there's nothing "unique" about photographing with Rs, so we
> come back to equipment.
>
> What this list really is is an international community of people who
> seem to have at least two things in common - we all use and are perhaps
> a bit irrationally attached to Leica equipment of one sort of another;
> and we are all interested in photography, to one extent or another.
>
> For those of us who are interested in photography, the onslaught of
> digital is a major topic - and who better to discuss it with than those
> we Leica..?
>
> Hats? Scotch? Pens? Custom made bicycles? Take that trash talk to list
> for hat-wearing, drunk, bikeriders with inkstained shirts!:-)
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Rolfe
> Tessem
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:53 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Is digital photography necrophilia?
>
> B. D. Colen wrote:
>
> > The reality, Rolfe, is that other than here and on photo-net,
> > Leica-related talk is getting to be rarer and rarer. I'd point out, if
>
> > I may, that those of us discussing digital more and more are people
> > who have shot with Leicas, and very often still do shoot with Leicas,
> > but have also embraced a new reality, and that reality is now part of
> > our photographic lives. You say you had no problem tolerating Tilly
> > hats, single malts, etc....and motorcycles, and cars, and pens, and
> > hi-fi equipment. Then what's the problem with tolerating discussion of
>
> > digital photography? It's at least relevant to a photography list,
> > while all those other topics, which at times have completely dominated
>
> > the list for days at a time, are utterly and complete irrelevant.
> >
> > B. D.
>
> B.D.,
>
> I don't think Leica-related talk is getting to be rarer and rarer -- at
> least in recent years it has always been the LUG and photo.net (and its
> precursors).
>
> The problem with the second part of your post is that this isn't a
> general purpose photography list. It is one thing for completely
> off-topic threads such as those about Tilly hats and single malts to
> meander for a few days, and quite another for people to treat a Leica
> list as a place to debate anything and everything photographic
> regardless of the topic's relevance to things Leica. Since digital is
> the latest thing, that is what dominates at the moment, and has for
> weeks and weeks.
>
> This will cause (and arguably already has caused) the LUG to completely
> lose its focus and become a non-resource rather than the valuable one
> that it has been over the years.
>
> Just to be clear, I have nothing against digital per se. When the Leica
> digital back for the R8/R9 arrives, I expect it to be discussed here on
> the LUG -- probably ad nauseum. :-).
>
> Rolfe
>
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